From rme3d@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:27:27 PDT 1995 Article: 5001 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5001 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rme3d@aol.com (RME 3D) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Toaster LW without Switcher? Date: 19 Apr 1995 06:58:18 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n2qca$k8d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n274t$2nm@shell.globalone.net> Reply-To: rme3d@aol.com (RME 3D) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Are you loading the "GET SMALL" project? This will help you a little. - RME3D - From 72620.1654@CompuServe.COM Thu Apr 20 21:27:36 PDT 1995 Article: 5002 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5002 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!news.inhouse.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Don Peterson <72620.1654@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: RAPTOR 3's Processer-Independent technology? Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:23:29 GMT Organization: DeskStation Technology, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3n32sh$fd5$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: >>>>> "DK" == David Kim writes: In article z931205@corn.cso.niu.edu (David Kim) writes: DK> 61 times faster than an Amiga A4000/040/25 DK> 51 times faster than a Pentium 90 DK> 31 times faster than a Raptor IIA (Alpha 21064A/275) ... DK> Any thoughts you can share would be appreciated. -- >My first thoughts are that if this is an accurate transcription, >I >wouldn't buy anything from this company. The floating point >performance of the EV5 @ 300 Mhz may be twice the speed of the >EV45@275, but it's certainly not 31x. Integer performance is >less. Obviously, reading a bar chart isn't taught in school these days. The chart is captioned "Times greater than an A4000/040/25." Each bar has a number associated with it that is intended to show exactly what the captions says: "Times greater than an A4000/040/25." Therefore, each bar's value (length) which represents each processor type tested, indicates how many times faster that processor performed as compared to an "A4000/040/25." -- Don Peterson DeskStation Technology "Where the Raptor was born" From johnc@MCS.COM Thu Apr 20 21:26:35 PDT 1995 Article: 5003 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5003 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception = ??? Date: 19 Apr 1995 08:36:43 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3n33lb$e09@Mars.mcs.com> References: <2f9057ae@nbre.nfe.be> <3n24nq$24d@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > I'm still wondering about Lee's cryptic mention of the Perception DDR's > ability to record/play audio, thus providing a true non-linear editing > package with the addition of the video digitizer card. > Are the audio capabilities something that come built into the PDDR or is > there an additional piece of hardware to buy? > Is recorded audio stored along with the video clips on the same drive or is > an extra hard drive needed for audio samples? Can audio samples be > manipulated outside of the video clips or attached to different video clips? > Will there be non-linear editing software included with the PDDR or would I > have to figure in the additional cost of Razor or Adobe Premier? You have to buy an audio card if you want to record audio, and you also have to buy NL editing software like Razor or Adobe Premier. Both DPS and the in:sync (Razor) people were recommending the Turtle Beach audio card, saying it was much better in maintaining sync with the video over long playback. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From dma@mcs.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5004 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5004 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!willis.cis.uab.edu!ddsw1!usenet From: Dan Ablan Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:45:37 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3n3461$9td@News1.mcs.com> References: <3n1alk$7e1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dma.pr.mcs.net >>John Gross wrote: > Am I missing something here? Why is it essential that the CEO know the > technology inside and out. His job is to manage the personnel of the > compnay and make sure things run smoothly. I don't believe he's going to > be doing tech support or deciding tech issues. > =================== >>Lee Stranahan wrote: > A valid point - but I think managing the personnel and making things run > smoothly in a high tech company is slightly different then running, let's > say, a restaurant. There are issues involved that you need to grasp to > MAKE things run smoothly, and I view some knowledge of computers or > desktop video as important....-some- knowledge. This is just my opinion, > of course, obviously some people don't feel that way. Both comments here seem valid. But I think it comes down to the CEO's own confidence and security. If the person in charge is man (or woman) enough to let the people he/she hired do their jobs, the company has a much greater chance of doing well. Insecurity and personal attitudes, ie, competition, dissention, are what really creates poor working enviornments. Any manager that it threatened by one of his/her employee's having more experience and knowledge, should obviously, not be in a managerial role. -Dan Ablan From dma@mcs.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:36 PDT 1995 Article: 5005 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5005 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!psuvax1!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!usenet From: Dan Ablan Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Realistic wheel motion Date: 19 Apr 1995 13:48:39 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dma.pr.mcs.net glewis@pcocd2.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis - MPG DA ~) wrote: > I am relatively new to LightWave, and would like to create > realistic motion of wheels, such that I can send a vehicle along a > path and the wheels would always stay in full contact with the > ground, and rotate properly, even when the vehicle itself is changing > headings. Depending on what the road condiditons are like in your animation, the best way to do this is calculate your distance, the size of your wheel, and rotate it once over the right number of frames. Then repeat the motion. Then, get a hold of Motion Master, Vol II, and use the Child to World program to keep the wheels in tact, even if they fly off the car, after it runs into a telephone pole.:) Dan From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:28:12 PDT 1995 Article: 5006 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5006 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Play Infinity Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:17:04 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 38 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n361r$gmt@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3mu3r8$mdh@horus.infinet.com> <3muhhm$inl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3muhhm$inl@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) wrote: >--------------------- >It'd be nice if they did get along better, who knows it could be an act. >I've always wondered what the real reason was for them breaking up like >they >did. Paul Montgomery said alot that I think was dead on in his opening >remarks. I think PLAY is here for the long hull, and is a more serious >company and has a more realistic vision for the future. Newtek isnt dead, >they're just changing, its like they all grew up. >------------------------ > >Boy, lemme tell ya - the real reasons are VERY interesting, and I swear >that some day the whole thing will be an interesting book or >something...as for now, only about 12 people in the world have a real >grasp on what happened, and even WE don't agree on everything... > >I just remember that NewTek has a lawyer as its CEO - that's one reason >I'm not saying more.. > > "Could you just lean over and whisper it in my ear?" --Connie Chung > >_____________________________________________ >Lee Stranahan >Area 51 Visual Effects > >"The owls are not what they seem." From bblevins@uidaho.edu Thu Apr 20 21:26:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5007 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5007 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!uhog.mit.edu!uw-beaver!uw-coco!nwnexus!krel.iea.com!news.moscow.com!bei.moscow.com!user From: bblevins@uidaho.edu (Bryan Blevins) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Doppler Effect Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 11:12:19 -0800 Organization: Blevins Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <3mfn44$app@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3mhr3b$n2l@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bei.moscow.com > > : Anybody got any ideas as to how to get a Doppler Effect (gradual changing > > : from blue to red, or vice-versa) on an object's surface. I've tried > > : reflection maps. It just doesn't have the intensity or the "gradual > > : shifting" I'm looking for. I would be grateful for any > > : suggestions...can't wait for my Lightwave Pro subscription to kick in.;-) How about doing a surface morph? -- Bryan J. Blevins Clothes make the man. Naked people have Blevins Enterprises, Inc. little or no influence on society. bblevins@uidaho.edu -- Mark Twain From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:28:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5008 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5008 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek Shoots Themselves With Laser Tag Guns Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:39:15 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 41 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n37bg$gmt@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3ml69p$lhl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <137155@cup.portal.com> <3mu4cb$3fi@blinky.inc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3mu4cb$3fi@blinky.inc.net>, syndesis@beta.inc.net (John Foust) wrote: but you must keep in >mind that Internet tech support must be an adjunct to regular >tech support - it's not as if it could substitute for real >telephone support. So in that sense, it's "gravy" - an added >expense to appease net-wienies who are too shy to use the phone. :-) Here's another (somewhat biased) view of InterNet Tech Support. Asymetrix (makers of ToolBook for windows)has both phone and email support, and I've been told by more than one phone-support person that the most talented/experienced of the support staff have the job of fielding the email support questions. The same is true with OS/2 tech support. I'm friends with an ex-"OS/2 Tech Support Team Leader". He was in charge of a group of email support staffers, which were the people who had been there the longest or know most about OS/2. There seems to be a pattern that the people who have Internet access and know how to use email for more than making lunch plans with "the guy in accounting" just happen to ask the most difficult questions. Many of these questions could probably benefit many people. An Email line offers an easier way of compiling documents like FAQ's and manual addendums that (theoretically) could help lots of people with redundant questions. Along the same lines, Asymetrix has started to compile documents and code examples of commonly asked questions. On more than one occasion I've called for help, and was sent out a three or four page fax explaining the exact problem and it's solution. This cut down the phone time to about 2 or 3 minutes for a problem that could've taken 15 or 20 minutes to explain. There are lots of ways of appeasing "net-wienies who are too shy to use the phone". :) Brian From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:27:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5009 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5009 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Kiki sets new records at NAB Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 13:45:41 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 7 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n37ne$gmt@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3mujnc$3a0@clarknet.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3mujnc$3a0@clarknet.clark.net>, keithc@iron.uoregon.edu (Keith Christopher) wrote: >Hey quit picking on Kiki, she's way cool! 8-} Is she still wearing 10 pounds of make-up? From craven@rlyeh.muc.de Thu Apr 20 21:27:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5010 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5010 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!zib-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!rlyeh.muc.de!craven Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave X-NewsReader: IntuiNews 1.2 (15.5.94) References: <3mfn67$aqd@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3mgjec$h40@spruce.cic.net> <137111@cup.portal.com> From: "Dirk Taggesell" Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 14:29:32 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Distribution: world Subject: Re: DPS Perception Message-ID: <31148229@rlyeh.muc.de> Organization: R'lyeh - Home of Cthulhu Lines: 43 Jeric@cup.portal.com schrieb in 137111@cup.portal.com unter dem Subject Re: DPS Perception folgendes: > Keith Williams writes: > >In article <3mfn67$aqd@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, stranahan@aol.com > (Stranahan) w > r > >ites: > >|> In short, it's 1) component all the way through, 2) D1 resolution, 3) > >|> better then D1 color range, 3) PCI based, 4) SCSI drive based, 5) and > >|> costs EXACTLY SAME ($2500 for the main board, additional $995 to > capture) > >|> as the old PAR. > > > >Um...Must be that I'm missing something. Seems that a PAR card for the > Amiga > >cost about $1700 (from a dealer, can't remember the MSRP) and would do > capture > s > >(all you needed to add was a drive). > > > BZZZZTTT! You also needed a TBC-IV. So, why? Thought, for capturing You need a DPS AD-3000 board. At least it worked with our PAR. And to deny what I had to read otherwise, it _HAS_ Component Input! This TBC may be a fine thing, but I didn't need it for capturing. AD-3000 did it's job very well. > >Oh, and it would plug into an ISA slot (read PC compatible). > > BZZZTTTT! Amiga-PAR goes into Amiga slot. TBC-IV goes into ISA. And AD-3000 too. mfg Craven _ ____ Dirk Taggesell, Muenchen _ // / \ Z-Netz: | not connected \\ // ( OS/2 ) UseNet: | craven@rlyeh.muc.de \X/ \____/ USENET is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of yourself in front of a very large audience. --Lars Poulsen From Jeff_Holinski@mindlink.bc.ca Thu Apr 20 21:27:14 PDT 1995 Article: 5011 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5011 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!news.mindlink.net!mindlink.bc.ca!a4482 From: Jeff_Holinski@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeff Holinski) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: very dissapointed :( Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 09:14:28 -0800 Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <69158-798308068@mindlink.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mindlink.net In article , jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Jasper) writes: > > Msg-ID: > Posted: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 02:28:37 GMT > > Org. : The Ohio State University > > I was going to order Lightwave 4.0 but when I called they told me they do > not > offer student specials. I was taken by surprise. This is the first I have > ever > heard of an animation company not offering student discounts. I was very > upset > since I think Lightwave will be the best animation program to ever hit > the PC. > Does anyone know if they are offering student specials in the future? I > had to > order 3D Studio because I am on a deadline, but I would love to buy > Lightwave > if I can get it for aroung $500. > Jeff Where did you hear that LightWave PC was shipping? Here or on the LightWave list? The talk for the last few months has been that there would most likely NOT be student discounts for LW. Why were you surprised? Another question might be why you're on a deadline to get a 3D program when the student versions of 3DS are supposed to be limited to NON-comercial work? I suspect that after using 3D Studio for a few months and seeing the street price of LW drop into the $700 range you'll wish you'd have waited. ;^) Jeff H... From grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu Thu Apr 20 21:27:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5012 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5012 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:55175 comp.sys.dec:31094 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!boulder!usenet From: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu (Dirk Grunwald) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: RAPTOR 3's Processer-Independent technology? Date: 19 Apr 1995 16:37:43 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <3ms809$kj0@News1.mcs.com> <3n1lmu$pft@News1.mcs.com> Reply-To: grunwald@foobar.cs.colorado.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: foobar.cs.colorado.edu In-reply-to: Stephen Bailey's message of 19 Apr 1995 00:32:29 GMT Btw, to follow on the same thread, in an earlier mail I had said that if the Raptor performance information posted by the original poster was accurately transcribed, I wouldn't buy anything from the company since it was incorrect. The information *was not* accurately transcribed, and in fact, I've requested a price list and information from the company. Looks like they have good products and have them early. From stranahan@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:26:48 PDT 1995 Article: 5013 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5013 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception = ??? Date: 19 Apr 1995 12:22:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n3dbe$nak@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n24nq$24d@shell.globalone.net> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com It requires a sep. audio card - like one of the $300-400 16 bit cards (turtle beach, fr'instance) out there for PCS...there is software for doing SIMPLE cuts editing, more like a playlist really, included... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan From Norman@eisner.decus.org Thu Apr 20 21:28:30 PDT 1995 Article: 5014 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5014 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:16:47 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <3ml3j8$kpg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov In article , fredie@churchill (Fredie.Layberger) wrote: > > The impression I got from the news release was that the new box could > be used without being hooked to a computer (i.e., that one could edit > the video captured in the field while enroute back to the studio.) If > this is true, what OS is in the new box? and can Lightwave be used > in portable unit when it's not connected to a computer? > This is a problem with NewTek announcements... they leave a lot of details hanging. It could be because the product is so far from completion. My impression is that in "portable" mode it works like a tapeless VCR with simple edit controls. No more, no less. For NLE you need a computer. That's my guess ;-) So NewTek... How does it work???? <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From Norman@eisner.decus.org Thu Apr 20 21:28:03 PDT 1995 Article: 5015 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5015 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek Shoots Themselves With Laser Tag Guns Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:54:37 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 57 Distribution: inet Message-ID: References: <3ml69p$lhl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <137155@cup.portal.com> <3mu4cb$3fi@blinky.inc.net> <3n37bg$gmt@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov > syndesis@beta.inc.net (John Foust) wrote: > but you must keep in > >mind that Internet tech support must be an adjunct to regular > >tech support - it's not as if it could substitute for real > >telephone support. So in that sense, it's "gravy" - an added > >expense to appease net-wienies who are too shy to use the phone. :-) > bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) wrote: > Here's another (somewhat biased) view of InterNet Tech Support. {...} > Along the same lines, Asymetrix has started to compile documents and code > examples of commonly asked questions. On more than one occasion I've > called for help, and was sent out a three or four page fax explaining the > exact problem and it's solution. This cut down the phone time to about 2 > or 3 minutes for a problem that could've taken 15 or 20 minutes to explain. > > There are lots of ways of appeasing "net-wienies who are too shy to use the > phone". :) > > Brian Amen Brian. This is the 90's, phone support and BBS's are passe, cliche... Email, Web servers, and FTP servers are the way to go. Don't believe me.. check out www.microsoft.com or DEC,SGI,Novell,Apple... Gravy? I don't think so. Have you ever tried to get current tech info from a phone support dweeb? You'd have better luck with a fence post. Tech support for a problem may still need to be handled by phone, but the electronic support should be tried first. A server is no worse to maintain or operate than a BBS, and reaches a heck of a lot more folks. If you shop for services, you can usually find a ma & pa shop that will run it for you for a lot less than what it would cost you to run a BBS. Neat thing about it... it can be done from anywhere. Calif rates too high? try one these providers in Alabama: www.nuance.com www.iquest.com www.icic.com www.traveler.com www.garply.com and that's just the ones I can recite from memory! SURF's UP DUDE! <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From srosas@cs.tamu.edu Thu Apr 20 21:28:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5016 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5016 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.tamu.edu!srosas From: srosas@cs.tamu.edu (Sergio E Rosas) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW PC Macros? Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:41:59 GMT Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3n3lhn$q5i@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.cs.tamu.edu Do the Macros that come with LW PC (as plug-ins) come with source code? As examples to "would be" plug in developers? Or how do you go about learning the ins and outs of plug-in coding for LW PC I code on Turbo C on the PC. And I would like to try to code plugins for LW. Any info. appreciated . Sergio From srosas@cs.tamu.edu Thu Apr 20 21:28:50 PDT 1995 Article: 5017 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5017 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!atlantis.utmb.edu!news.tamu.edu!srosas From: srosas@cs.tamu.edu (Sergio E Rosas) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:55:22 GMT Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.cs.tamu.edu I have a ? for those of you that might have gone through this allready: I have a 1000+ frame anim rendering on my A4000. It will take at least another month to finish. I have a buyer for my 4000 NOW. and he is willing to give me allot. If i sell my 4000, and buy a pentium, will my scenefiles be able to render on LW PC? Or are they not compatible? (i think the scenefile probably is compatible) So, will everything be compatible? Images/objectfiles/filenames/ etc. If i do switch i will be using NT. This is a very important anim to me so i don't want to loose it in the switch. Thanks, Sergio Rosas From virtualbri@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5018 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5018 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Hey kids! Guess what? I don't speak for Area 51! Date: 19 Apr 1995 15:20:41 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 2 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n3nq9$pb9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com That's OK, we still love both of you :) --Brian From Norman@eisner.decus.org Thu Apr 20 21:28:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5019 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5019 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Realistic wheel motion Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 19 Apr 1995 20:48:09 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov In article <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com>, Dan Ablan wrote: > glewis@pcocd2.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis - MPG DA ~) wrote: > > > I am relatively new to LightWave, and would like to create > > realistic motion of wheels, such that I can send a vehicle along a > > path and the wheels would always stay in full contact with the > > ground, and rotate properly, even when the vehicle itself is changing > > headings. > > Depending on what the road condiditons are > like in your animation, the best way to do this > is calculate your distance, the size of your > wheel, and rotate it once over the right number > of frames. Then repeat the motion. > If the wheel is part of a car object, you will need to separate it in modeler and save the wheel as a separate object. And the car with no wheels as an object. Then you can center the wheel object in modeler so that it has the proper center of rotation. By default the center of rotation is the orgin x=0,y=0,z=0. You can change this point or center the object using the centering macros. > Then, get a hold of Motion Master, Vol II, and > use the Child to World program to keep the wheels > in tact, even if they fly off the car, after it > runs into a telephone pole.:) > > Dan Or if you just want them to stay on the car ;-) you can simply load and clone the afore mentioned wheel object and parent it to the wheel-less version of the car object. Of course there is nothing wrong with using Motion Master. <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From compupix@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:26:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5020 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5020 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: compupix@aol.com (CompuPix) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Doppler Effect Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:30:57 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 22 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n3veh$r6p@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <5437.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Reply-To: compupix@aol.com (CompuPix) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I've gotten a lot of mail about this. Thanks to everybody for your suggestions. I'm using 2.0 so I'm limited as to what I can morph. But I did use the color gradient surface (with velocity and falloff) which produced an interesting effect. But the best look (and easiest to manipulate) was using two colored lights and tweeking the envelopes. It produced a very nice gradual shift through both colors. The nice part about it is getting "back" to the original surface look, simply by turning those lights down and the white one up. I am really surprised how much interest this generated, judging by my Email. Thanks again you've all been a great help. Incidentally, just to give something back, to be accurate, the shift goes from blue to red as you approach, and of course red to blue as you recede from an object. And it only works in the line of sight of the observer. Jeff Willoughby CompuPix From jost@well.sf.ca.us Thu Apr 20 21:28:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5021 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5021 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!nntp-ucb.barrnet.net!well!jost From: jost@well.sf.ca.us (Jorge Steffen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: RCS MANAGEMENT ADRESS?? Date: 19 Apr 1995 22:12:52 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3n41t4$9j2@nkosi.well.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: well.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Has someone got an actual Phone Nr. / FAX/ BBS Number or address for RCS Management? I'm trying to find out whats up with the FusionForty upgrade to 68060, ChipMem Acc. and the scsi Controller, as there's no official RCS Distribution here in Germany.... TNX For any info... Bye Jorge From cclittle@umich.edu Thu Apr 20 21:27:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5022 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5022 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:55246 comp.sys.dec:31106 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!defender.rs.itd.umich.edu!cclittle From: cclittle@umich.edu (chris little) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: RAPTOR 3's Processer-Independent technology? Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.dec Date: 19 Apr 1995 14:56:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3n38ag$snd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: defender.rs.itd.umich.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] David Kim (z931205@corn.cso.niu.edu) wrote: : According to a performance comparison chart sent to me by DeskStation : Technology, a Raptor 3 workstation with the 5/300 (Alpha 21164/300) CPU : module installed is approximately: : 61 times faster than an Amiga A4000/040/25 : 51 times faster than a Pentium 90 : 31 times faster than a Raptor IIA (Alpha 21064A/275) : So yes...it's speedy. (Is this the only 21164 based CPU out?) So how much does this little toy cost? Chris. From npeirce@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:06 PDT 1995 Article: 5023 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5023 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: npeirce@aol.com (NPeirce) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW 40 Shipping now? Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:47:17 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 3 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n43tl$shi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: npeirce@aol.com (NPeirce) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com While LW upgrades are technically shipping, no copies have been sent out the door. Anyone know when it will go? This week? Or is the above info accurate? From stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com Thu Apr 20 21:26:51 PDT 1995 Article: 5024 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5024 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.channel1.com!stiltner From: stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com (Matt Stiltner) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception = ??? Date: 19 Apr 1995 23:26:29 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Lines: 43 Message-ID: <3n4675$8k7@news1.channel1.com> References: <2f9057ae@nbre.nfe.be> <3n24nq$24d@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: norden1.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : I'm still wondering about Lee's cryptic mention of the Perception DDR's : ability to record/play audio, thus providing a true non-linear editing : package with the addition of the video digitizer card. You cannot record audio and video at the same time. You record audio using any Windows supported soundcard and sync the audio/video by hand using an offset that is stored as a project. Once you have the audio synced to the video you can playback. : Are the audio capabilities something that come built into the PDDR or is : there an additional piece of hardware to buy? No audio support in the PVR, you must buy a seperate soundcard. The Turtle Beach cards are popular, but you can use a Sound Blaster or any card that can save .wav files. : Is recorded audio stored along with the video clips on the same drive or is : an extra hard drive needed for audio samples? Can audio samples be : manipulated outside of the video clips or attached to different video clips? Audio is stored on your system drive. Video is stored on the dedicated PVR HD. : Will there be non-linear editing software included with the PDDR or would I : have to figure in the additional cost of Razor or Adobe Premier? No included software, DPS just makes the hardware. Razor Pro lists for $799. : With the higher block limits and D1 image quality, how much video could I : expect to be able to record to, let's say, a 1gig drive...is this comparable : to the Flyer? (ie: 1gig = 5 minutes of video) DPS says 4minutes for 1GB. The video is D1 resolution (720x486), since it isn't true serial digital D1 you can say the image quality isn't exactly D1, though it looks great. : These are some of the bigger questions I have about the PDDR...if someone : can answer these now, I'd appreciate it, but I'm sure things will become : more clear when the PDDR actually ships. There is a PVR.faq that was posted to CompuServe that answers many questions. -- stiltner@norden1.com From stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:17 PDT 1995 Article: 5025 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5025 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.channel1.com!stiltner From: stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com (Matt Stiltner) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Buy LightwavePC Now? Date: 19 Apr 1995 23:30:21 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3n46ed$8k7@news1.channel1.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: norden1.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : I would definitely get NT. LW renders faster under NT as opposed to : Win32s. I have 32 megs in my P100 and haven't had any problems yet. (I do : hit the virtual memory sometimes tho, but that's what it's for) John, doesn't use of virtual memory slow down renderings? Under 3D Studio use of the swap drive brings a render to its knees. Does the NT file system work better than MS-DOG? -- stiltner@norden1.com From johnc@MCS.COM Thu Apr 20 21:28:09 PDT 1995 Article: 5026 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5026 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LW 40 Shipping now? Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:33:31 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3n46kb$otf@Venus.mcs.com> References: <3n43tl$shi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] NPeirce (npeirce@aol.com) wrote: > While LW upgrades are technically shipping, no copies have been sent out > the door. Anyone know when it will go? This week? Or is the above info > accurate? No, you've got it backwards. Lightwave 4.0 PC ONLY (pre-release) is shipping now. There are no upgrades being shipped yet. That will take a couple more weeks, according to our NewTek rep. We've already received some of the PC Lightwave versions, that's all that's shipping now. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From mikep@sr.hp.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5027 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5027 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hplextra!news.dtc.hp.com!canyon.sr.hp.com!mikep From: mikep@sr.hp.com (Mike Powell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Date: 20 Apr 1995 00:42:22 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Sonoma County Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3n4ale$44t@canyon.sr.hp.com> References: <3mq9rc$9r@blinky.inc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.sr.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Foust (syndesis@beta.inc.net) wrote: : In article , spam@IslandNet.com (Richard Peterson) says: : > : >Greetings! I'm new to this group, so please forgive me if this question : >has been asked before. I am using a preview copy of Chicago/Windows 95 on an : >IBM PC computer, and am not too sure which version of Lightwave 4.0 to use on : >my system. "Plain" vanilla Windows version, or the Windows NT version? : They're only shipping a Win32s version. This executable will run : under regular Windows, once you've installed the Win32s DLLs. : It also runs under WinNT without modification or adjunct, : as well as Win96 I believe. It might or might not run well : under OS/2. Great! So all anyone has to do is install the Win32s DLLs! This leads to a few important questions: 1 - What is a DLL? 2 - Where does one get these DLLs? 3 - How (exactly) does one install these DLL's on their system? Many thanks! -Mike- From mchang@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:27 PDT 1995 Article: 5028 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5028 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!hudson.lm.com!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!not-for-mail From: mchang@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Mark Chang) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: VTWIN Date: 19 Apr 1995 18:20:41 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaiwan009.kaiwan.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I still haven't received the press package from Newtek but from reading a press release from NAB At the same time it remains fully compatible with the current Flyer hardware, which will allow Video Toaster Flyer owners to convert their present Video Toaster system into the new Video Toaster easily. What do they mean "convert their present Video Toaster system into the new Video Toaster easily"? I don't think they mean if I have a VT2.0 board, I can stuff it into the Video Toaster Bay and bing bang bong add a FLYER now I have a stand alone Video Toaster Flyer combo. Right??! More likely - existing FLYER add to Video Toaster Bay - poof Video Toaster Flyer combo. More RIGHT?!? regards, mark.chang ,+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+| | Mark C. K. Chang Faith Academy 85|| | Embedded Systems Software Engineer CSUF 91|+ | Creative Integrated Systems Inc. AACF Alumni|' | mchang@kaiwan.com, mark.chang@solar.org, http://www.kaiwan.com/~mchang |' +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shf@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:47 PDT 1995 Article: 5029 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5029 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: LW PC Macros? Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: <3n3lhn$q5i@news.tamu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 02:15:27 GMT Lines: 23 Sender: shf@netcom16.netcom.com +-- srosas@cs.tamu.edu (Sergio E Rosas) writes: | Or how do you go about learning the ins and outs of plug-in coding | for LW PC I code on Turbo C on the PC. And I would like | to try to code plugins for LW. You can get information about the LightWave Server Development Kit by subscribing to the lwplugin-l mailing list. Send a message with the following body text (subject is ignored): subscribe lwplugin-l to "listserv@netcom.com". You will get a welcome message which includes information about how to get the SDK via FTP. If you just want the message, send the body: info lwplugin-l to the same address above. The current version of the SDK will work with the pre-release 4.0. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?" From thierry@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:30 PDT 1995 Article: 5030 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5030 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: thierry@ix.netcom.com (Thierry Humeau) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: VTWIN Date: 20 Apr 1995 02:39:06 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n4hga$l8p@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-dc11-27.ix.netcom.com In <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> mchang@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Mark Chang) writes: > >I still haven't received the press package from Newtek but from reading >a press release from NAB > > At the same time it remains fully compatible with the current Flyer >hardware, which will allow Video Toaster Flyer owners to convert their >present Video Toaster system into the new Video Toaster easily. >I don't think they mean if I have a VT2.0 board, I can stuff it into the >Video Toaster Bay and bing bang bong add a FLYER now I have a >stand alone Video Toaster Flyer combo. Right??! > Correct. >More likely - existing FLYER add to Video Toaster Bay - poof Video >Toaster Flyer combo. More RIGHT?!? > Yes! the new Toaster card included in the Toaster for "windows" is platform independant and doesn't rely on custom chips like the VT 2000 and 4000 do. Thierry. -- ************************************************************** Thierry Humeau tel: 301-933-3008 Cameraman/Producer fax: 301-933-2868 Freelance/TV Networks thierry@ix.netcom.com ************************************************************** From wannab3d@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5031 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5031 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!decwrl!hookup!news.mathworks.com!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wannab3d@aol.com (Wanna B 3D) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave books, tutorials, and such... Date: 19 Apr 1995 23:30:41 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n4kh1$553@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: wannab3d@aol.com (Wanna B 3D) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello fellow Lightwavers, I was just wondering if there is a definitive book or video that covers Modeler extensively? I ordered the dark horse tapes and I have learned a great deal from them, but, I must know more. I want to learn the practicality of all the tools, going into great detail. It's just hard to visualize what everything does. The manual does not cover a great deal. I guess I'm looking for a tutorial manual/video of some sorts. So now that 4.0 ships, what's going to happen to us little Amigians? I won't be able to say, "an Amiga did that" any longer. (frown) I hope Newtek won't let us fade away. The future is uncertain, and every step I take has less margin for error. I own a PC also, and will probably upgrade to Win LW, it is just unfortunate. I guess the loyal PC crowd will never understand. This is where it all STARTED! You can't ever change that FACT! Long Live The AMIGA. I know someone out there is listening... Wanna B 3D@aol.com From edreams@pd.org Thu Apr 20 21:27:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5032 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5032 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!edreams From: edreams@pd.org (Scott Bragg) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: very dissapointed :( Date: 20 Apr 1995 04:28:17 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n4nt1$249@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <69158-798308068@mindlink.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: noel.pd.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jeff Holinski (Jeff_Holinski@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote: : In article , : jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Jasper) writes: : > : > Msg-ID: : > Posted: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 02:28:37 GMT : > : > Org. : The Ohio State University : > : > I was going to order Lightwave 4.0 but when I called they told me they do : > not : > offer student specials. I was taken by surprise. This is the first I have : > ever : > heard of an animation company not offering student discounts. I was very : > upset : > since I think Lightwave will be the best animation program to ever hit : > the PC. : > Does anyone know if they are offering student specials in the future? I : > had to : > order 3D Studio because I am on a deadline, but I would love to buy : > Lightwave : > if I can get it for aroung $500. : > Jeff : Where did you hear that LightWave PC was shipping? Here or on the LightWave : list? The talk for the last few months has been that there would most : likely NOT be student discounts for LW. Why were you surprised? : Another question might be why you're on a deadline to get a 3D program when : the student versions of 3DS are supposed to be limited to NON-comercial : work? : I suspect that after using 3D Studio for a few months and seeing the street : price of LW drop into the $700 range you'll wish you'd have waited. ;^) : Jeff H... -- Scott Bragg Electron Dreams edreams@noel.pd.org an animation house specialties: 3D Animation and Simulation From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:33 PDT 1995 Article: 5033 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5033 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3ml3j8$kpg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:38:01 GMT Lines: 7 Sender: jgross@netcom20.netcom.com : My impression is that in "portable" mode it works like a tapeless VCR with : simple edit controls. No more, no less. For NLE you need a computer. : That's my guess ;-) You got it. JG From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:07 PDT 1995 Article: 5034 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5034 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3mq9rc$9r@blinky.inc.net> <3n4ale$44t@canyon.sr.hp.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 05:45:48 GMT Lines: 11 Sender: jgross@netcom20.netcom.com : This leads to a few important questions: : 1 - What is a DLL? : 2 - Where does one get these DLLs? : 3 - How (exactly) does one install these DLL's on their system? All you need is included with the NewTek install disks... JG From freddric@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:54 PDT 1995 Article: 5035 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5035 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: freddric@aol.com (Freddric) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 20 Apr 1995 01:45:50 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 41 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: freddric@aol.com (Freddric) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I do have a copy of lightwave for the pc. Local dealer just got it in today. alot of new stuff. like: Unseen by rays: selectively ray trace. Reflection Options: Backdrop only: reflects only the colors in the backdrop. Raytrace + Backdrop: Reflects any object as well as backdrop. Sperical Reflection Map: reflects the selected image as a spherical reflection. Shadow alphas: show does for compositing work with live picts. Glow effect: (haven't found how it works yet, but makes surface glow.) Lens flares: distort. streak intensity, streak density,streak sharpness. Image compositing: composite image A and B with alpha channel support. PreRendering in all surface attributes. Renders as a small sphere. Multiple undoes in modeler. Numeric entry fields: Numeric field can do functions now. like move x(5m/2m+1m) User definable View sets. Use the numeric pad to set different vooms and pans. What Lightwave doesn't have. Now this is just a prerelease version so it might be in the final shipping version. no arexx macro commands in modeler. no moving preview in modeler.(windows version only) can not export or import into lightwave. Lightwave and modeler run as seperate programs. rendering screen is pretty small compared to amiga. I'm running only 800x600 24 bit and the renderscreen takes up about a quarter screen. Might get larger if you use a high resolution. no documentation on how i.k. with bones work. This is a short list and I've only played with lightwave for about 6 hours. so sorry if I missed something or gave out incorrect answers. I just thought people would be interested in what Lightwave has in it. P.S. I rendered frame 200 from the starfighter.scn with default options and it rendered in 14 seconds. I have a pentium 90mhz with 48meg ram with afterloading lightwave and model, leaves me 24megs. I'm running the nt version also. From davewarner@globalone.net Thu Apr 20 21:26:54 PDT 1995 Article: 5036 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5036 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception = ??? Date: 20 Apr 1995 04:04:21 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3n54i5$66s@shell.globalone.net> References: <2f9057ae@nbre.nfe.be> <3n24nq$24d@shell.globalone.net> <3n4675$8k7@news1.channel1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Matt Stiltner (stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com) wrote: : There is a PVR.faq that was posted to CompuServe that answers many questions. Thanks to everyone for posting additional info about the PVR! Unfortunately, I didn't see the PVR FAQ messages until long after I posted my request for more info.... -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From jlfitz@cais2.cais.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:30 PDT 1995 Article: 5037 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5037 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news.cais.com!cais2.cais.com!jlfitz From: jlfitz@cais2.cais.com (Jeffrey Fitzgerald) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Local Axis/World Axis Movement?? Date: 20 Apr 1995 09:07:42 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3n588u$9vs@news.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cais2.cais.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Object movement with LW can sometimes be difficult if you are moving a rotated, pitched object. My experience has been that the object (especially if parented) will want to move according to it's local axis. This makes it difficult when you move on the Y axis and the box moves left instead of up. Is there now or will there be in the future a world axis setting to switch between the two? Any general help will also be appreciated... Thanks -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald // if you have to ask, jlfitz@cais.com \X/ you don't understand. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Real Life On-Line Help 24 Hrs a Day... Jesus@Heaven.God * From awb@ais.net Thu Apr 20 21:29:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5038 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5038 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ais.net!adoane From: awb@ais.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:11:07 GMT Organization: American Information Systems, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3n5j0r$dn3@news.ais.net> References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc-host02.dialup.ais.net X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) > freddric@aol.com (Freddric) writes: > I do have a copy of lightwave for the pc. Local dealer just got it in > today. alot of new stuff. Hey, can I ask how much you payed? Just curious of the "street price". >>>> Later, -Arn ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arnie Boedecker * * * ImagiNation Enterprises "So you're saying that I'm redundant, That I repeat myself, That I say things over and over again..." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From zachws@ids.net Thu Apr 20 21:29:51 PDT 1995 Article: 5039 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5039 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!usenet From: zachws@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: FS: 9-gig flyer drives, with sticker, $2499 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 04:12:53 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST [telnet ids.net] Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3n5ml9$lq9@paperboy.ids.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ids.net Hi all, For Sale -------- Micropolis 9-gig Flyer drives, new, unopened, fully warrantied and with the official NewTek sticker. $2499 plus shipping. Please reply to email...thanks. Zach From downinit@teleport.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:02 PDT 1995 Article: 5040 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5040 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!news.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: downinit@teleport.com (DMetcalfe) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: RCS MANAGEMENT ADRESS?? Date: 20 Apr 1995 08:52:59 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3n600r$h51@kelly.teleport.com> References: <3n41t4$9j2@nkosi.well.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kelly.teleport.com Cc: jost@well.sf.ca.us jost@well.sf.ca.us (Jorge Steffen) writes: >Has someone got an actual Phone Nr. / FAX/ BBS Number or address for RCS >Management? I'm trying to find out whats up with the FusionForty upgrade >to 68060, ChipMem Acc. and the scsi Controller, as there's no official >RCS Distribution here in Germany.... I just spoke to them last week, they've had machines booting with the preliminary 060's they've got for a couple months. They're still waiting for a real shipment from Motorola, they then expect to be able to ship '060 upgrades for FusionForty within 2 months. They have new software for the boards that lets them work in OS3.1 machines. The upgrade is $99, $150 for OS3.1 + FF upgrade. The number I have seems to be the owners residence, she said they've just moved to new office space and were having troubles with phones. Try Lalita at 514 990 5551. -- Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From wal@cais.com Thu Apr 20 21:30:03 PDT 1995 Article: 5041 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5041 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cais.com!wal.cais.com!wal From: wal@cais.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:19:43 EST Organization: Capital Area Internet Service (CAIS) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wal.cais.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> freddric@aol.com (Freddric) writes: >From: freddric@aol.com (Freddric) >Subject: Lightwave 3d has arrived... >Date: 20 Apr 1995 01:45:50 -0400 >I do have a copy of lightwave for the pc. Local dealer just got it in >today. Well well.... It appears NewTek IS in some deep financial doodoo. I called and ordered the upgrade to the PC version @ 10:00EST on the 17th. I was told it would ship the >next day< and arrive wednesday AM. Wednesday, 1PM, NO Lightwave. Called NewTek, said "whats up?" Answer: I'll call you back.... Thursday, after failing to recieve a return call, I call NewTek again only to be told that the product is BACK ORDERED! Hmmm..... It seems that upgrade money is not good enough to pay the rent ;) So much for being a loyal >Paying< customer. I guess after waiting this long, what's another couple of months, right? For those of you who already have it- keep those reports coming! wal@cais.com ******************************************************************************* NewTek is not what it seems.... From compupix@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:26:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5042 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5042 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: compupix@aol.com (CompuPix) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Doppler Effect Date: 20 Apr 1995 13:02:33 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 23 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n6439$3rm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n3veh$r6p@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: compupix@aol.com (CompuPix) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I wrote: >to be accurate, the shift goes from blue to red as you >approach, and of course red to blue as you recede from an object. And it >only works in the line of sight of the observer. Better clarify this. Let me give you the quote from the book"Astronomy in Color" by Peter Lancaster Brown - Macmillan page 228 Doppler Effect "With light, the effect shows itself by shortening its wavelength from an approaching source and lengthening its wavelength on a receding source. The Fraunhofer lines will be displaced towards the blue end of the electromagnetic spectrum, and towards the red end if the source is receding. However, only motion in the line of sight of the observer can be detected in this method." Sorry for any misunderstanding. Jeff Willoughby CompuPix From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:26:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5043 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5043 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception = ??? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:00:30 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 20 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n67gq$2ka@hermes.unt.edu> References: <2f9057ae@nbre.nfe.be> <3n24nq$24d@shell.globalone.net> <3n4675$8k7@news1.channel1.com> <3n54i5$66s@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n54i5$66s@shell.globalone.net>, davewarner@globalone.net wrote: >Matt Stiltner (stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com) wrote: > >: There is a PVR.faq that was posted to CompuServe that answers many questions. > > >Thanks to everyone for posting additional info about the PVR! > >Unfortunately, I didn't see the PVR FAQ messages until long after I posted >my request for more info.... > > > Speaking of the FAQ, is there a place to get it w/o Compuserve? If not, could one of you subscribers please post it here? Brian From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:28:19 PDT 1995 Article: 5044 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5044 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Buy LightwavePC Now? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:12:08 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 18 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n686l$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n46ed$8k7@news1.channel1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n46ed$8k7@news1.channel1.com>, stiltner@hypnos.norden1.com (Matt Stiltner) wrote: >: I would definitely get NT. LW renders faster under NT as opposed to >: Win32s. I have 32 megs in my P100 and haven't had any problems yet. (I do >: hit the virtual memory sometimes tho, but that's what it's for) > >John, doesn't use of virtual memory slow down renderings? Under 3D Studio use >of the swap drive brings a render to its knees. Does the NT file system work >better than MS-DOG? I think that's why he he said "sometimes". VMem shouldn't be counted on as a resource of Memory unless you are using LW as a hobby. VMem, however, can let you render those 5 or 6 frames of a 300 frame animation that might just go over your real memory limit. It was designed as a backup pool of memory, and that's really all it should be used for. Brian From m-video@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5045 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5045 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: m-video@ix.netcom.com (Michael Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Amiga Par w 1 gig HD for sale! Date: 20 Apr 1995 18:46:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n6a6e$q07@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-wc6-27.ix.netcom.com I am Jumping ship!, So I need to sell my amiga PAR, with the micropolis 1 gig hd... inclused the latest 2.5 software and Manual.. $1600 thanks From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:29:33 PDT 1995 Article: 5046 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5046 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: VTWIN Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:51:29 GMT Lines: 10 Sender: jgross@netcom12.netcom.com : What do they mean "convert their present Video Toaster system into the : new Video Toaster easily"? : I don't think they mean if I have a VT2.0 board, I can stuff it into the : Video Toaster Bay and bing bang bong add a FLYER now I have a : stand alone Video Toaster Flyer combo. Right??! Perhaps there is Toaster/Flyer newsgroup that would be able to answer this question better...? JG From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:30:40 PDT 1995 Article: 5047 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5047 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 18:55:44 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: jgross@netcom12.netcom.com : Well well.... : It appears NewTek IS in some deep financial doodoo. : I called and ordered the upgrade to the PC version @ 10:00EST on the 17th. : I was told it would ship the >next day< and arrive wednesday AM. : Wednesday, 1PM, NO Lightwave. Called NewTek, said "whats up?" : Answer: I'll call you back.... : Thursday, after failing to recieve a return call, I call NewTek again : only to be told that the product is BACK ORDERED! Hmmm..... : It seems that upgrade money is not good enough to pay the rent ;) : So much for being a loyal >Paying< customer. I'm confused. How does backordered upgrades relate to NewTek being in sever financial distress? JG From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:29:15 PDT 1995 Article: 5048 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5048 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:32:36 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 62 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n69d3$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3mq9rc$9r@blinky.inc.net> <3n4ale$44t@canyon.sr.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n4ale$44t@canyon.sr.hp.com>, mikep@sr.hp.com (Mike Powell) wrote: >John Foust (syndesis@beta.inc.net) wrote: >: In article , spam@IslandNet.com (Richard Peterson) says: > > Great! So all anyone has to do is install the Win32s DLLs! > > > This leads to a few important questions: > 1 - What is a DLL? > 2 - Where does one get these DLLs? > 3 - How (exactly) does one install these DLL's on their system? > > Many thanks! > -Mike- A little Windows stuff here : A DLL (Dynamic Linked Library - or something) is a file which holds (usually) functions for Windows programs to call upon. For instance, many simple programs that play video files in Windows don't actually contain the routines to open, posistion, play, and close a video clip. It all comes down to routines in the DLL's of the Video for Windows stuff. The same is true for some of the 32 bit stuff in Windows itself. WinNT is 32 bit. Win9X will be 32 bit. But Windows 3.1 and WFWG3.11 are both 16 bit systems. Win32s was made so that 16 bit Windows can use some of the 32 bit stuff. The "s" in Win32s is for "subset". Win32s is a subset of the 32 bit functions of 32 bit versions of Windows. OK - so what's this mean to you? ... All you need to do if you're the proud owner of Windows 3.1 or WFWG 3.11 is do download the Win32s installation files. The new version is 1.25 and the self extracting version of the archive is about 2 megs. Uncompress this file in a temp directory and then run Setup.Exe. To obtain the file via on the internet, ftp to : ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu:/Mosaic/Windows/ and get the file w32sOLE.exe. This is a self extracting archive that will give you 2 files. One will be another archive file, and one will be a .BAT file. Run the .BAT (I think it's called install.bat, but it doesn't actually install). This will spew a bunch of files and directories in your current directory, so be sure to do it in a temp directory. You will eventually delete all these files. After it's done spewing, go to the directory called "DISK1" and run the setup.exe from windows. This will install the files into your /windows/system directory. It will also ask you if you want to install a game called FreeCell. Say "yes" if this is the first time you're installing Win32s. This game will intentionally and gratuitously (sp?) use the win23s calls to be sure they were installed right. Finally, it will restart windows. Now you can delete all those files that were created by the self extracting archives. See? It's as easy as 1-2-3! ;) Yeah - I knew what I was doing and it still took me about 20 minutes. Good luck to anyone who tries to follow my instructions. Email me if you have questions. bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Brian From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:29:47 PDT 1995 Article: 5049 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5049 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave books, tutorials, and such... Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 17:37:00 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 7 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n69l8$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n4kh1$553@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n4kh1$553@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wannab3d@aol.com (Wanna B 3D) wrote: >So now that 4.0 ships, what's going to happen to us little Amigians? I >won't be able to say, "an Amiga did that" any longer. (frown) You could still say "That's the fruit of Amiga's loins." From m-video@ix.netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5050 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5050 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: m-video@ix.netcom.com (Michael Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: What about toaster 4.0 software? (amiga version) Date: 20 Apr 1995 18:59:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n6av0$q5r@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-wc6-27.ix.netcom.com All this LW 4.0 stuff is great, but what about up Toaster users? Has NewTek started shipping Toaster 4.0? (have they even finished it?) I didnt really see it at NAB? Well I did see Tpaint and CG, but no new Switcher? Anyone know? thanks! From shf@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:31:03 PDT 1995 Article: 5051 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5051 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:24:02 GMT Lines: 15 Sender: shf@netcom15.netcom.com +-- wal@cais.com writes: | I called and ordered the upgrade to the PC version @ 10:00EST on the 17th. | I was told it would ship the >next day< and arrive wednesday AM. | Wednesday, 1PM, NO Lightwave. Called NewTek, said "whats up?" | Answer: I'll call you back.... | So much for being a loyal >Paying< customer. As I understand it, NewTek is only shipping the pre-release units to dealers at this time. I'm not sure when upgrades will go out. Just a note to everyone -- NewTek does not take direct orders for anything except upgrades. To buy the product new, talk to a dealer. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?" From jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Thu Apr 20 21:27:12 PDT 1995 Article: 5052 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5052 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!slip1-27.acs.ohio-state.edu!jasper.7 From: jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Jasper) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: very dissapointed :( Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:27:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip1-27.acs.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] >Hmmm - 3D Studio 3.0 goes for $799 in the student catalogues I have. >LightWave 4.0 is running $995. Not such a big difference IMHO. Or perhaps >you didn't buy the latest 3D Studio or got a better deal? I'm >curious. What sort of Student deadline do you have in mid-April? I got 3D Studio R4 and Animator Pro 1.3 together for $395, it is a full comercial package that can be upgraded and I can transfer the license. It is a special deal that Ohio State has once a year on Autodesk stuff. I still want to get Lightwave though. The deadline is for a 10 minute animated video I am working on, It isn't due for 5 weeks and I have been working on it night and day for the past three, but I was hoping to submit it to an independant video production compitition in a few weeks. Jeff From Norman@eisner.decus.org Thu Apr 20 21:29:36 PDT 1995 Article: 5053 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5053 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: VTWIN Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:08:42 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov In article , jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) wrote: > : What do they mean "convert their present Video Toaster system into the > : new Video Toaster easily"? > : I don't think they mean if I have a VT2.0 board, I can stuff it into the > : Video Toaster Bay and bing bang bong add a FLYER now I have a > : stand alone Video Toaster Flyer combo. Right??! > > Perhaps there is Toaster/Flyer newsgroup that would be able to answer > this question better...? > > JG Nope, sorry NO newsgroup, but there is/was a mailing list. This is another example of the confusion caused by an incomplete and somewhat vague press release by NewTek. The product name doesn't help much either. They really need to get their act together or customers may take their laser tag guns off stun ;-) Hopefully you guys will do a better job in the magazine description. <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From mbc@po.cwru.edu Thu Apr 20 21:31:16 PDT 1995 Article: 5054 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5054 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.cwru.edu!mbc From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:14:15 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3n6ir7$f0n@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sushi.ins.cwru.edu X-Newsreader: CWRU GnomeNews for Windows In a previous article shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) said: > As I understand it, NewTek is only shipping the pre-release units to > dealers at this time. I'm not sure when upgrades will go out. Just > a note to everyone -- NewTek does not take direct orders for anything > except upgrades. To buy the product new, talk to a dealer. Excuse my ignorance, but what does this mean? I ordered LW4.0 for Windows and was told it would be here probably late this week or sometime next. By pre-release does that mean I will get another update after that? If so I am assuming it will be a free update. Or is this just for people on the Amiga who already have the standalone version? Thanks. Mike C. -- | Michael B. Comet - mbc@po.cwru.edu | http://www.cwru.edu/0/cwrunet/homes/comet/index.html | Graphics & Animation! From jonas.karlsson@atb.ct.se Thu Apr 20 21:28:42 PDT 1995 Article: 5055 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5055 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!seunet!news2.swip.net!seunet!cindy!cindy.ct.se!atb!jonas.karlsson From: jonas.karlsson@atb.ct.se (Jonas Karlsson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PicassoII and Lightwave Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 95 15:20:00 +0100 Sender: news@ct.se Reply-To: jonas.karlsson@atb.ct.se In-Reply-To: Stuart Ferguson's message References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Spot 1.3a Unregistered X-Mailer: uugate 0.40 (SunOS 4.1.3) (Fidonet Gateway) Organization: Beat that one H=E4gerfors Lines: 27 In a message of 17 Apr 95 Stuart Ferguson wrote to All: SF> Picasso II and 4.0: SF> I've re-written the screen-handling and display routines under 4.0 so SF> they will now work with the Picasso II. If you use "changescreen", SF> Modeler will detect the oddness it does and explicitly undo it, so SF> screens can be promoted this way. The promoted screen will open in 16 SF> colors and will display correctly using only graphics library calls. SF> The CHIP ram method is still used for the 4-color screens needed for SF> acceptable performance on 2000's. SF> Bottom line: SF> 1) Wait for 4.0 if you can. 2) Get VillageTronics to make the "copy SF> continously" mode available without "changescreen," or get SF> "changescreen" to emulate openscreen correctly. 3) Use normal Amiga SF> modes. is there egs support also, would be perfect if it would be able to run by an egs system. ( UUCP Dialup connection ) From downinit@teleport.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:26 PDT 1995 Article: 5056 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5056 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!news.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: downinit@teleport.com (DMetcalfe) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:31:56 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3n6jsc$gf3@kelly.teleport.com> References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kelly.teleport.com freddric@aol.com (Freddric) writes: >P.S. I rendered frame 200 from the starfighter.scn with default options >and it rendered in 14 seconds. I have a pentium 90mhz with 48meg ram with >afterloading lightwave and model, leaves me 24megs. I'm running the nt >version also. Ha Ha Ha, pretty funny huh? Loading the OS and 2 programs takes 24MB! What a joke! Uh... err... wait a minute, my new P90 only has 32MB, this isn't funny anymore, argh! -- Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From awb@ais.net Thu Apr 20 21:29:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5057 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5057 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ais.net!adoane From: awb@ais.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:41:29 GMT Organization: American Information Systems, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net> References: <3n69d3$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mc-host08.dialup.ais.net X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) > > The same is true for some of the 32 bit stuff in Windows itself. WinNT is 32 > bit. Win9X will be 32 bit. But Windows 3.1 and WFWG3.11 are both 16 bit > systems. Win32s was made so that 16 bit Windows can use some of the 32 bit > stuff. The "s" in Win32s is for "subset". Win32s is a subset of the 32 bit > functions of 32 bit versions of Windows. > > I thought WFW 3.11 is supposed to be 32 bit as well, Am I wrong? >>>> Later, -Arn ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arnie Boedecker * * * ImagiNation Enterprises "So you're saying that I'm redundant, That I repeat myself, That I say things over and over again..." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From downinit@teleport.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5058 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5058 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!news.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: downinit@teleport.com (DMetcalfe) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Date: 20 Apr 1995 14:36:29 -0700 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3n6k4t$gsk@kelly.teleport.com> References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kelly.teleport.com srosas@cs.tamu.edu (Sergio E Rosas) writes: >If i sell my 4000, and buy a pentium, will my scenefiles be able >to render on LW PC? >If i do switch i will be using NT. I think you'll be OK, as long as you use NT or Win95 with LongFileNames. Someone here has a definite answer don't they? John? Mark? -- Darren Metcalfe "Had this been an actual emergency, downinit@teleport.com we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed" From loyd@ipower.nsc.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:47 PDT 1995 Article: 5059 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5059 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!nsc!Madcat From: loyd@ipower.nsc.com (Loyd Case) Subject: LIghtwave 3D under Windows 95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <9504201309.AA31245@Madcat> Sender: news@nsc.nsc.com (netnews maintenance) Nntp-Posting-Host: lcase.nsc.com Reply-To: loyd@ipower.nsc.com (Loyd Case) Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:09:31 GMT Lines: 14 The version I got yesterday (the box is labeled "prerelease Intel version") will install either under NT or Windows as a Win32s program. I ran the install program under Windows 95 (final beta), selected the NT version, and was up and running. BTW, if you get it, ignore the instructions on installing the dongle driver. You still need the dongle, but apparently the routines to recognize the dongle are now automatically installed. Loyd Case From harlock@Ranma.stanford.edu Thu Apr 20 21:32:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5060 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5060 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!kithrup.com!news.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: harlock@Ranma.stanford.edu (Mike Harlock) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PVR Perception press release (has all the info) Date: 20 Apr 1995 12:37:06 -0700 Organization: The Space Vessel Arcadia Lines: 366 Message-ID: <3n6d52$84i@Ranma.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ranma.stanford.edu Well, I saw this in rec.video.production a week ago. After waiting for someone else to post it here, no one did, and I don't know why, so here it is, it answers probably all the questions people have had about the PVR board. (I guess we're all justabuncha lemmings. ;) --mike __ < \ harlock@ranma.com - Mike Harlock [\\\\\\(\ (:::<======================================- \< > \ Practice Random Kindness \\ / | And Senseless Acts of Beauty `==='____/ New! http://raindrop.ranma.com/mikem.html ================================================================= THE DPS PERCEPTION VIDEO RECORDER Models PVR-2500/PVR-3500 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS & PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS WHAT IS THE PERCEPTION VIDEO RECORDER? The DPS Perception Video Recorder (PVR) is a digital disk recorder capable of recording and playing back broadcast quality video in real time from a dedicated SCSI hard drive. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE HARDWARE? Perception Video is a full-length PCI card which must be plugged into a computer. On this board is a SCSI II interface which connects to one or more dedicated hard drives. Because the SCSI controller is integrated with the PVR card, the video data never has to move over the PCI bus during playback. This avoids the bus contention problems found with systems which use the computer's hard drive for video storage. Although the PCI bus is very fast, operating system limitations create performance bottlenecks which limit system bandwidth. The video output section utilizes 10 bit 2X oversampled encoding and provides better than D1 scaling. Component (Betacam/MII), composite and S-Video analog outputs are provided via breakout cables, which are included. An optional full-length daughtercard (AD-2500) adds component, composite and S-Video inputs for real time recording. IS THE OUTPUT BROADCAST QUALITY? The term "broadcast quality" is open to interpretation, but the Perception Video Recorder exceeds the specs of other products typically used for broadcast playback. Like all DPS products, the PVR-2500 produces a true RS-170A output. WHEN WILL THE PVR BE AVAILABLE? Scheduled release date is June, 1995. HOW WELL DOES THE PVR INTEGRATE WITH THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE? The Perception Video Recorder integrates completely with your existing Windows NT software packages using an innovative file system which enables video clips to appear simultaneously in many different file formats. Any software package capable of saving RGB images to or loading them from a hard drive can be used. PVR kernel level drivers enable hard drives attached to the Perception board to appear as standard system drive letters. For instance, a video sequence called "filename" can appear in one program as D:\filename.tga and in another as D:\filename.bmp. There is no need to convert to different file formats before using images from the PVR. IS THE PVR A NON-LINEAR EDITOR? From its inception, the Perception Video Recorder was envisioned as the heart of an integrated digital video workstation. Non-linear editing is just one possible use for the PVR-animation is another. Equipped with an AD-2500 video capture daughtercard, the PVR-2500 functions as a digital video recorder, providing unsurpassed picture quality and a storage capacity limited only by the size and number of attached SCSI hard drives. The standard PVR software provides some simple editing capabilities, but is not intended to replace time line-based editing software. Third party editing software can be used to directly control the PVR. CAN THE PVR CONTROL A VIDEO DECK? The DPS Perception Video Recorder can directly control any VCR which emulates the Sony BVU serial transport protocol. VCR-like controls on the PVR GUI simplify the task of batch digitizing and recording. In this mode, the PVR can read SMPTE time code from the source deck. HOW DO YOU CONNECT THE PVR TO A VCR? The physical interface between the PVR and a VCR or editor is via the computer's serial port. Because Sony compatible decks utilize a 38.4 KB, RS-422 interface, it is necessary to install an RS-232 to RS-422 adapter on the host computer's serial port before PVR VCR emulation and control modes can be used. It is also necessary to verify that a 16550 or equivalent UART is used for the computer's serial port in order to support data rates of 38.4 KB. IS THERE AUDIO SUPPORT? The DPS Perception Video Recorder can be used with any Windows NT compatible sound card. This provides a wide range of potential audio quality choices. Synchronization of audio and video is maintained by the PVR software. Some sound cards, such as those made by Turtle Beach, provide accurate system timing and have been found to consistently maintain synchronization during long video clips. Captured audio is stored on the computer's system hard drive, not on the dedicated PVR drive. This approach provides maximum flexibility for manipulating audio and video during the editing process. Products which interleave audio and video on the same hard drive compromise the total available video bandwidth and severely limit audio editing capabilities. HOW IS THE PVR DIFFERENT THAN THE DPS PAR? The Perception Video Recorder is a second generation design which incorporates new technologies such as a PCI bus interface, 10 bit, 2X oversampled video encoding and an integrated FAST SCSI- 2 hard drive controller. Standard video resolution is CCIR-601 (720 x 480 NTSC, 720 x 576 PAL) for greater compatibility with other products. The dynamic range of the PVR is in excess of D1 scaling so that images are brighter, have more color and greater spatial resolution than ever before. Other new features include seamless video looping, independent compression rates for each video field and virtually unlimited storage capacity. The optional live video capture daughtercard (AD-2500) provides a component (Betacam/MII) input in addition to composite and S- Video inputs. The PVR capture card entropy prediction circuit analyzes the content of incoming video and dynamically calculates the optimum amount of compression on a field by field basis. HOW IS THE PVR SIMILAR TO THE DPS PERSONAL ANIMATION RECORDER? The Perception Video Recorder, like the PAR, employs an integrated hard drive controller. Compressed video data never has to travel across the system bus on its way to the hard drive. This reduces the load on the CPU, provides extremely efficient data transfers and eliminates the possibility of dropped frames during recording and playback. WHAT VIDEO BANDWIDTH CAN I EXPECT FROM CAPTURED VIDEO? Full video bandwidth (>5.5 MHz) is maintained in component (Betacam/MII) and S-Video modes. The composite input is limited to heterodyne (VHS) resolution. WHAT VERSIONS OF NT DO YOU SUPPORT? The Perception Video Recorder software is available for Windows NT version 3.5 and later. Versions are available for Intel, DEC Alpha and MIPS processors. WHY WINDOWS NT? The Windows NT operating system combines unprecedented support for multiple processors and alternate CPU architectures while retaining some compatibility with existing Windows applications. Many animation and video editing software developers have released or will soon release Windows NT applications, all of which should transparently interface with the DPS Perception Video Recorder. HOW MUCH TIME WILL I GET PER GIGABYTE? Betacam SP quality is achieved at about 4 minutes per gigabyte. The PVR operator is free to choose the proper quality vs. storage parameters. Unlike some systems, the PVR can play sequential video clips of varying compression ratios. A single frame of video might need as little as 30 Kbytes of disk space or as much as 260 Kbytes. WHAT IMAGE FORMATS WORK WITH YOUR SOFTWARE? The most popular RGB image formats are supported by the PVR's Windows NT software including Targa, SGI, BMP, and IFF (LWI). HOW MANY HARD DRIVES CAN I CONNECT TO THE PVR? Up to seven SCSI devices can be connected to the PVR. DO I NEED SPECIAL HARD DRIVES? Off the shelf, high performance SCSI hard drives are required in order to reliably record and play real time broadcast quality video. DPS does not sell hard drives, but they are available from DPS dealers or from hard drive specialty retailers. As of April, 1995, the following hard drives have been tested and certified by DPS for use with the Perception Video Recorder: * Micropolis AV Series (3243, 4220) * Seagate Barracuda Series New hard drives are constantly being introduced and existing drives are constantly being discontinued. For a current list of certified PVR hard drives, please contact DPS. CAN I PUT THE DRIVES OUTSIDE THE COMPUTER? DPS provides a ribbon cable for attaching up to two internal SCSI drives to the 50-pin header on the PVR card. To provide for easy connection of external SCSI drives, this ribbon cable can be replaced by readily available third party cables which terminate in an external SCSI connector. The external connector can be mounted on an empty expansion slot cover or in any available computer case knock out. CAN I VIEW VIDEO ON MY COMPUTER MONITOR? You can preview video sequences on your computer monitor, but it is more useful to see the video sequence at full resolution and frame rates and at its native color depth on an external video monitor. RGB monitors don't adequately portray television images. CAN I USE THE PVR TO PREVIEW 24 FPS MOVIE SPEEDS? Perception can perform real time interpolation of 30 FPS video to 24 FPS film rates or convert 24 FPS sequences to 30 FPS so that it can be recorded on any standard VCR. IS THERE A WAY TO BACK UP STORED VIDEO TO DIGITAL TAPE? Compressed video data stored on the PVR's dedicated hard drive can be backed up using the standard tape backup software that ships with Windows NT. CAN I PLAY BACK VIDEO AND ANIMATIONS IN SLOW MOTION? In addition to real time (30 frames per second), there are many intermediate recordable speeds that you can choose for video playback. WHAT KIND OF VIDEO MONITOR DO I NEED? CAN I USE MY TV? We recommend using broadcast video monitors which when connected to the component output of the PVR, will properly display the true quality of the video output signal. You can use a TV set to monitor the output of the PVR if it contains a video input. Many consumer TV receivers and monitors now include both S- Video and composite inputs. In available, we highly recommend using the S-Video input instead of the composite input. The S- Video (Y/C) connection will provide a higher resolution image which is free of NTSC encoding artifacts. Whichever type of monitor you use, be sure to carefully adjust the brightness, saturation, hue and contrast controls using the SMPTE color bar test signal which is provided with the Perception Video Recorder. CAN I PLAY A SEGMENT LONGER THAN ONE DRIVE IN LENGTH? The Perception Video Recorder hardware is capable of providing uninterrupted playback from multiple video segments, even if they span multiple hard drives. WHAT TYPE OF COMPUTER CAN I USE? Perception Video is designed to run under Windows NT version 3.5 on computers employing 80486 (DX2-66 or higher), Pentium, DEC Alpha or MIPS processors. The PVR software utilizes Windows NT's native support for multitasking and multiple processors which allows you to take advantage of the most powerful personal computers available today. An ideal system would consist of a 90 MHz or faster Pentium CPU with 32 MB or more of RAM, a 4 gigabytes or larger dedicated PVR hard drive and a 1 gigabyte or larger system drive. An example of an advanced system would be one based on a 300 MHz DEC Alpha CPU. A DAT or Exabyte tape backup system would be a welcome addition to any system. ARE THERE ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PVR'S HOST PC? To install the PVR card, you will need a full-length PCI slot which is unobstructed by the CPU fan, heat sinks or other components. Two slot widths (but only one bus connection) are required if the PVR system also contains an AD-2500 real time video capture daughtercard. CAN THE PVR BE USED WITH STANDARD WINDOWS 3.1 APPLICATIONS? We feel that the Windows NT environment offers significant advantages over other operating systems and that our long term development efforts will be concentrated in that area. Still, we recognize that many people would like to use their existing Windows 3.1 applications with the PVR-at least until native NT versions of their favorite applications become available. To meet this need, DPS will initially offer Windows 3.1 compatible software for the PVR. Windows 3.1 software will be limited to use with Intel processors. The Windows 3.1 version of the PVR software will enable popular video editing packages, such as Adobe Premiere 4.0 and in:sync RAZOR Professional to be used with the DPS Perception Video Recorder today. In fact, a computer system containing a DPS PVR card with capture daughtercard, a sound card, third party editing software and one or more SCSI hard drives provides a non-linear editor of unparalleled performance at an unbeatable price. For many users, such a system will provide precisely the performance and functionality they desire. DPS PERCEPTION VIDEO RECORDER SPECIFICATIONS Output Signals Composite (BNC)................................. 1 V p-p 75 Ohm S-Video (4-Pin Mini-DIN): Y Signal .................................... 1 V p-p 75 Ohm C Signal ............ 286 mV (NTSC), 300 mV (PAL) p-p 75 Ohm Component Betacam (BNCs): Y Signal ............... 714 mV (NTSC), 1 V (PAL) p-p 75 Ohm R-Y, B-Y (Pr , Pb) Signal .... 700 mV (NTSC, PAL) p-p 75 Ohm Component MII Mode (BNCs): Y Signal .......................... 700 mV (NTSC) p-p 75 Ohm R-Y, B-Y (Pr, Pb) Signal .......... 486 mV (NTSC) p-p 75 Ohm Genlock Input (BNC): Composite ............................ 1 V p-p (Loop or 75 Ohm) Digital I/O: DPS CVE-2 Bus (40 pin header) ...... For Real Time Capture Card GPI Trigger:..(RCA connector)Negative Edge TTL or Contact Closure Hard Drive I/F: (Internal 50 pin header) Standard or Fast SCSI-2 Raster Size: .................. 720 X 480 (NTSC), 720 X 576 (PAL) Video Performance: Frequency Response 0-5.0 MHz (+/-.25 dB), 5.0-5.5 MHz (-1.5 dB) K-Factor (2-T) ........................................... < 1% Differential Phase ......................................... <1 Differential Gain ......................................... <1% Signal/Noise (Luma Weighted) ........... >68 dB (Playback Mode) >60 dB (All Modes) Power Consumption: +5V .................................................. 1.6 Amps +12V ................................................... 240 ma -12V .................................................... 50 ma Total .............................................. 11.5 Watts Recommended Host System: CPU .................................... 80486 DX2-66 or Faster RAM ....................................... 32 MB (Recommended) Other ............ PCI.Bus, Windows NT, VGA Graphics and Mouse OPTIONAL LIVE VIDEO CAPTURE DAUGHTERCARD SPECIFICATIONS Input Signals (Via supplied breakout cable) Composite (BNC) ................................ 1 V p-p 75 Ohm S-Video (4-Pin Mini-DIN): Y Signal .................................... 1 V p-p 75 Ohm C Signal ............ 286 mV (NTSC), 300 mV (PAL) p-p 75 Ohm Component Betacam (BNCs): Y Signal ............... 714 mV (NTSC), 1 V (PAL) p-p 75 Ohm R-Y, B-Y (Pr , Pb) Signal .... 700 mV (NTSC, PAL) p-p 75 Ohm Component MII Mode (BNCs): Y Signal .......................... 700 mV (NTSC) p-p 75 Ohm R-Y, B-Y (Pr, Pb) Signal .......... 486 mV (NTSC) p-p 75 Ohm ORDERING INFORMATION (MODEL NUMBERS) PVR-2500 DPS Perception Video Recorder (NTSC) AD-2500 DPS Video Capture Daughtercard (NTSC) PVR-3500 DPS Perception Video Recorder (PAL) AD-3500 DPS Video Capture Daughtercard (PAL) For more information, please contact your nearest DPS location: U.S. Canada Europe (UK) 606-371-5533 416-754-8090 44-01252-718300 Fax: 606-371-3729 Fax: 416-754-7046 Fax: 44-01252-718400 Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. (FAQ revision date 4/4/95). Copyright 1995 Digital Processing Systems Inc. ********************************************************************* * DWhite@iac.net In non-cyberlife aka David White * * Advanced Project Manager Digital Processing Systems * * Voice (606)371-5533 Fax (606)371-3729 * ********************************************************************* * Q-Blue 1.0 * From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:28:55 PDT 1995 Article: 5061 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5061 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> <3n6k4t$gsk@kelly.teleport.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:38:41 GMT Lines: 12 Sender: jgross@netcom18.netcom.com : >If i sell my 4000, and buy a pentium, will my scenefiles be able : >to render on LW PC? : >If i do switch i will be using NT. You'll be fine. All of your scenes/images and objects will be compatible. The only thing I have to say is that I always finish rendering a project with the same version that I started with just in case there are any slight changes to the way images appear when rendered. JG From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:31:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5062 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5062 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3n6ir7$f0n@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:44:21 GMT Lines: 17 Sender: jgross@netcom18.netcom.com : > As I understand it, NewTek is only shipping the pre-release units to : > dealers at this time. I'm not sure when upgrades will go out. Just : > a note to everyone -- NewTek does not take direct orders for anything : > except upgrades. To buy the product new, talk to a dealer. : Excuse my ignorance, but what does this mean? I ordered LW4.0 for : Windows and was told it would be here probably late this week or sometime : next. By pre-release does that mean I will get another update after that? : If so I am assuming it will be a free update. Or is this just for people : on the Amiga who already have the standalone version? If you ordered an upgrade, I've heard they are going out next week. Yes, pre-release means that when the final shipping version and manuals are complete, you will receive them at no charge. And, as Stuart noted, NewTek does not sell any versions direct, just upgrades to existing users. JG From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:33:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5063 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5063 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: LIghtwave 3D under Windows 95 Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <9504201309.AA31245@Madcat> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:47:32 GMT Lines: 18 Sender: jgross@netcom18.netcom.com Loyd Case (loyd@ipower.nsc.com) wrote: : The version I got yesterday (the box is labeled "prerelease Intel version") : will install either under NT or Windows as a Win32s program. I ran the : install program under Windows 95 (final beta), selected the NT version, and : was up and running. : BTW, if you get it, ignore the instructions on installing the dongle driver. : You still need the dongle, but apparently the routines to recognize the dongle : are now automatically installed. This is automated because you are running Windows 95. If you are installing to NT, you still need to install the Dongle Driver (but not for windows)...Unless NewTek changed something in the install script... JG From jperry@firstnet.net Thu Apr 20 21:33:21 PDT 1995 Article: 5064 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5064 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!zen.firstnet.net!news From: jperry@firstnet.net (Jim Perry) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: ---> RAPTOR 2's FOR SALE <--- Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:39:38 GMT Organization: Video Post & Graphics, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3n6nra$1p2@zen.firstnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.218.243.120 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.90.3 I’m posting for a friend. These are some killer machines, so give him a call! *---> RAPTOR 2's FOR SALE <---* Two Raptor 2 workstations for sale. One is 3 months old, and the other 9 months. Both are still under warranty and performing flawlessly. These are fully equipped workstations (minus monitors) and not stripped-out shells. EACH HAS THE FOLLOWING: MIPS 4600 CPU, 133 Mhz. 64 Mbyte RAM 2x speed CD ROM SVGA card SCSI-II VESA controller Ethernet card Floppy, Keyboard, Mouse Windows NT 3.5 (Daytona) One has a 520 Mbyte HD, and the other a 330 Mbyte HD. No additional network setup is required. They are already configured to talk to each other. Just add monitors and the application of your choice (ScreamerNet, Standalone LW, etc). Call Andy Hofman at 513-222-2212. From sjg@world.std.com Thu Apr 20 21:33:24 PDT 1995 Article: 5065 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5065 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!world!sjg From: sjg@world.std.com (Stephen J Gaudet) Subject: Two Low Cost Alpha systems by Nekotech Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:42:59 GMT Lines: 42 Nekotech is proud to announce the LC Power Toaster line using the Alpha 21066 processor from Digital, both well under $5,000.00. LC Power Toaster MACH I-166Mhz w/ 256K Cache CPU Board 16Mb Memory 21066 Alpha 500Mb Disk (IDE) PCI SCSI-II 2 Serial 2X CD-Rom IDE 1 Parallel Video SVGA 1Mb DRam Floppy 4 Simm Slots Keyboard & 2 Button Mouse Expansion 3 PCI & 5 ISA Case (Desktop) NT Loaded w/ CD and Manuals LC Power Toaster MACH I-233Mhz w/ 256K Cache 32Mb Memory 1Gb Disk (IDE) 2X CD-Rom Video SVGA 2Mb VRam Keyboard & 2 Button Mouse Case (Desktop) NT Loaded w/ CD and manuals Lightwave 4.0 available. ** Pricing valid through May 29, 1995 E-mail for full price list. 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From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:29:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5066 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5066 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: VTWIN Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:17:38 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 19 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n74ku$ie7@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n4ct9$1ti@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article , jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) wrote: >: What do they mean "convert their present Video Toaster system into the >: new Video Toaster easily"? >: I don't think they mean if I have a VT2.0 board, I can stuff it into the >: Video Toaster Bay and bing bang bong add a FLYER now I have a >: stand alone Video Toaster Flyer combo. Right??! > >Perhaps there is Toaster/Flyer newsgroup that would be able to answer >this question better...? > >JG I don't think so. There should be, however. The closest thing I've found is rec.video.desktop. ::shrug:: Brian Dupras From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Thu Apr 20 21:29:23 PDT 1995 Article: 5067 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5067 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:24:42 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 31 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n7528$ie7@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n69d3$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu To: awb@ais.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net>, awb@ais.net wrote: >> >> The same is true for some of the 32 bit stuff in Windows itself. WinNT is 32 >> bit. Win9X will be 32 bit. But Windows 3.1 and WFWG3.11 are both 16 bit >> systems. Win32s was made so that 16 bit Windows can use some of the 32 bit >> stuff. The "s" in Win32s is for "subset". Win32s is a subset of the 32 bit >> functions of 32 bit versions of Windows. >> >> > >I thought WFW 3.11 is supposed to be 32 bit as well, Am I wrong? >>>>> >Later, >-Arn > > Hey Arnie...how's my home town? No, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is a 16 bit operating system. The only major change over windows 3.1 is its built in support for networking and some minor changes (like the tool bar in file manager). You will still need to use the win32s library to run LW with WFWG. Life will be much simpler if Windows9X lives up to expectations... Brian bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu From Redmanm@cris.com Thu Apr 20 21:33:40 PDT 1995 Article: 5068 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5068 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!warp.cris.com!viking.cris.com!Redmanm From: Redmanm@cris.com (Christina Rogers) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Perception NL Software Date: 21 Apr 1995 02:44:37 GMT Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3n766l$eor@warp.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: viking-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] What type of Non-Linear Editing software will work with the DDR in a Windows NT environment? From cevanim@aol.com Thu Apr 20 21:32:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5069 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5069 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:12:33 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 15 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n70q1$b3o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com It is beyond me how a company can take orders, tell you it is shipping....Then discover at noon they don't have product. I'm so frustrated I feel like throwing a lamp across the room. Not just because we aren't getting LW4.0 but because we invested so heavily around NEWTEK the last 3 years. Having run some fairly large businesses (8-10 Mil Annually) it is beyond reality that these people can CONTINUALLY screw things up like this !!! How were they able to be as successful as they apparently were untill a year or two ago ? I start getting nervous the people running it are on drugs...Would someone explain to me what is going on before I loose my sanity.....AAAAAAHHHHH !!!!! Ed PS I hate to think about it: my use of their products starts to cast aspersions on my intellect and business decisions. CEVAnim@aol.com From oliver1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Thu Apr 20 21:33:42 PDT 1995 Article: 5070 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5070 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!ruger-26 From: oliver1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dean Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Perception NL Software Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:54:45 GMT Organization: Virtually Real Lines: 12 Message-ID: <3n7395$8ho_001@slip.uiuc.edu> References: <3n766l$eor@warp.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ruger-26.slip.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n766l$eor@warp.cris.com>, Redmanm@cris.com (Christina Rogers) wrote: >What type of Non-Linear Editing software will work with the DDR in a >Windows NT environment? > I would hazzard to guess that Razor Pro will work fine with the Perception. It runs great under NT! Dean Oliver Virtually Real From jgross@netcom.com Thu Apr 20 21:33:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5071 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5071 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Perception NL Software Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n766l$eor@warp.cris.com> <3n7395$8ho_001@slip.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 03:37:32 GMT Lines: 6 Sender: jgross@netcom5.netcom.com : I would hazzard to guess that Razor Pro will work fine with the Perception. It : runs great under NT! You are correct. JG From jcrowe@isd.tandem.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:09 PDT 1995 Article: 5072 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5072 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:55507 comp.sys.dec:31147 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.sys.dec Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!news.mathworks.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!world!zilker.net!halley!integrity!zaphod!jcrowe From: jcrowe@zaphodisd.tandem.com (Joseph Crowe) Subject: Re: RAPTOR 3's Processer-Independent technology? Message-ID: <1995Apr20.201251.24563@integrity.uucp> Sender: jcrowe@zaphod (Joseph Crowe) Reply-To: "jcrowe@isd.tandem.com" Organization: Tandem Computers Inc. References: <199504172118.AA15910@tyrell.net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 20:12:51 GMT Lines: 19 In article , Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) writes: |> Not to mention SMP (symetrical Multi processing). |> Any word how difficult it will be for LW to take advantage of SMP?? |> I.E. when or if SMP support is planned? I suspect that depends on the OS and how down and dirty LW gets in that respect. With most versions of UNIX that support threads, thread and process scheduling is normally transparent to the application and the application must specifically do some gyrations to associate different threads of execution to specific processors. I can't speak for NT because I have not gotten to play with it yet. I suspect, though, that NT probably does something similar with the OS doing default load balancing on the gross level based on the "busyness" level of each cpu as a function of time. YMMV. > |> <<<<======================================================================= |> Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org -- Joseph Crowe jcrowe@isd.tandem.com From Jeric@cup.portal.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:26 PDT 1995 Article: 5073 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5073 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!Jeric From: Jeric@cup.portal.com (J Eric Chard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek Shoots Themselves With Laser Tag Guns Date: 20 Apr 1995 23:00:15 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 25 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137409@cup.portal.com> References: <3ml69p$lhl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <137155@cup.portal.com> <3mu4cb$3fi@blinky.inc.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com >In article <137155@cup.portal.com>, Jeric@cup.portal.com (J Eric Chard) says: >> >> On a related topic: surely it must be cheaper for s/w makers to >> staff a Internet address than have phone support. I realize that >> it is not a perfect solution, but as a LW beta-tester, believe me, >> e-mail is better than snail mail or even phones much of the time. > >Yes, NewTek has its own domain (newtek.com) but you must keep in >mind that Internet tech support must be an adjunct to regular >tech support - it's not as if it could substitute for real >telephone support. So in that sense, it's "gravy" - an added >expense to appease net-wienies who are too shy to use the phone. :-) > Ohhh, humor. :^) Seriously, I'd much rather send an email message than sit there at long distance rates listening to '70s "light rock". **************************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * /////// Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * /////// Or else! | * * **************************************************************************** From Jeric@cup.portal.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:29 PDT 1995 Article: 5074 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5074 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!Jeric From: Jeric@cup.portal.com (J Eric Chard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 20 Apr 1995 23:20:03 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 15 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137410@cup.portal.com> References: <3n1alk$7e1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com >I think NewTek's new PC toaster (gee I hate that name) has a slight edge >over the rest of the NLE crowd because it is portable. Yeah, thereby meeting that big pent-up demand of those who wish to edit in their cars....... :^) **************************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * /////// Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * /////// Or else! | * * **************************************************************************** From mike.nielsen@theorem.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:24 PDT 1995 Article: 5075 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5075 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!udel!ssnet.com!theorem!mike.nielsen Distribution: world Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW 4.0 street price? From: mike.nielsen@theorem.com (Mike Nielsen) Message-ID: <1ef.3263.2172@theorem.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 23:59:00 -0500 Organization: Theorem Beach Online Services Lines: 4 Okay, what is the discounted price of LW 4.0 for Windows NT? --- * WR [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY From davewarner@globalone.net Sat Apr 22 12:09:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5076 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5076 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Toaster LW without Switcher? Date: 21 Apr 1995 03:34:10 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <3n7n5i$h13@shell.globalone.net> References: <3n274t$2nm@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Walter (Jay) Turberville (wturber@primenet.com) wrote: : I don't know of a way. You have reduced colors in all of your color maps and : loaded the Get Small project - right? Sorry if that is an offensive question. Ouch! That hurt! Yes...I've been LightWaving since 1991 and GettingSmall was one of the first things I learned how to do. =) : In scenes where objects go off screene or become very small (far away) you : can create duplicate scenes with off screen objects absent and/or replace far : away objects with less detailed versions that will require less RAM and look : identical. Same goes for an object's brushmap (if any). Gotta be careful : when replacing objects though. There are probably other tricks I haven't : mentioned or know about. Seems like you ought to be able to scrounge 500k : from somewhere though. I've applied every trick I know, including multiple versions of the scene with invisible objects deleted, image maps with the lowest possible number of bit planes and smallest possible resolution. There are no "far away" objects in this particular scene...everything is pretty close to the camera. I finally had to resort to letting the A3000 (running LW Standalone) just render all the frames in the most memory demanding part of the scene and the Toaster is working on another part of the animation that isn't quite so demanding memory-wise. This problem makes me wonder about something though, many people have stated that LightWave 4.0 would support distributive rendering on many machines by using a stripped down version of LW for the other machines....does anyone know if it will be possible to run the stripped down version on ALL machines for final rendering? Like, if I do all my test renders in Low Res and then when I'm ready for final rendering in Medium Res and I don't have enough RAM to do it, maybe I could just use the stripped version of LW and it would free up enough memory to get the job done??? I hope this is possible! --- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From stranahan@aol.com Sat Apr 22 12:09:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5077 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5077 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Play INC. Shares???? Date: 21 Apr 1995 03:18:38 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n7m8e$hqs@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I know they plan to go public at some point... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan Area 51 Visual Effects "The owls are not what they seem." From wturber@primenet.com Sat Apr 22 12:07:55 PDT 1995 Article: 5078 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5078 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip059.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 01:28:51 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <3n70q1$b3o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip059.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3n70q1$b3o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) writes: >From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) >Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... >Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:12:33 -0400 >Having run some fairly large businesses (8-10 Mil Annually) it is beyond >reality that these people can CONTINUALLY screw things up like this !!! >How were they able to be as successful as they apparently were untill a >year or two ago ? I start getting nervous the people running it are on >drugs...Would someone explain to me what is going on before I loose my >sanity.....AAAAAAHHHHH !!!!! >Ed >PS I hate to think about it: my use of their products starts to cast >aspersions on my intellect and business decisions. >CEVAnim@aol.com Time for a little perspective. I ordered LinkIt! in December and still haven't received it. Talk about vaporware. Impulse's "constant upgrade" program for Imagine was supposed to ship four minor release updates a year. I've received two and the "year" is almost up. They had similar trouble with the 3.0 release and actually shipped a 2.9 release to appease folks. Microsoft is gonna release Windows 95 when? Hijaak lied to me about .iff support twice. One and 1/2 years later they finally support 24 bit .iff (and it is still the program "most likely to crash Windows" that I run). OK, you can throw your lamp now. NewTek frustrations aside, LW is still a damn fine program. I just consider NewTek's quirks to be part of the cost of using LW. After all, what does a lamp cost? _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From amadeus@active.co.za Sat Apr 22 12:09:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5079 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5079 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!iafrica.com!ticsa.com!cstatd.cstat.co.za!slip05.active.co.za!amadeus From: amadeus@active.co.za (Peter Höhsl) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: What is Lightwave. Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:34:05 LOCAL Organization: Internet Africa Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip05.active.co.za X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] I have been a 3D Studio user for quite some time now and recently heard about this package called LightWave. What is it about and where can I find information with regard to it's features, price and availlabillity. Also - does it run on PC's? Thank you, Peter From mdmmds@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:09:15 PDT 1995 Article: 5080 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5080 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!mdmmds From: mdmmds@netcom.com (Matthew Sorrels) Subject: Lightwave PC 4.0 first look Message-ID: Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:49:17 GMT Lines: 157 Sender: mdmmds@netcom16.netcom.com After calling around I discovered that a local toaster dealer actually had a copy of Lightwave 4.0 Intel. Yes he wanted a fortune for it ($946) but even mail order wasn't great(Devware Video wanted $849 but didn't have any in stock yet(they said Friday)). Since I want to still be able to run LW on my Amiga, so I decided to just buy the PC one outright. Here's what I got(And I'm not sure its really all there): Nifty box/manual with some cool pictures. Has claims on the back the software doesn't backup(It claims to write a bunch of file formats that it doesn't--more on this later) A parallel port doggle with pass-through Three floppy disks 1 disk = All the software(its small) 1 disk = All the W32S stuff(didn't need it since I already have it) 1 disk = NT device drivers for doggle(only needed for NT) 1 CD ROM Sample objects, textures, etc. No software/plug-ins/whats on the floppy. Total size of CD = ~90 megs. What a waste. 1 Layout Manual Looks like the 3.5 SA manual re-typeset with a few minor additions. Not enough info for new users. 1 Pre-Release Notes Not a whole lot of stuff here. No packing list. I Suspect my box is missing the modeler manual as there is no documentation on the modeler in my box(I'm calling tommorow unless someone says its supposed to be that way. Packing lists are cool. Newtek should add one.) 1 Registration card. There are no on-line docs(major minus) There are no read-me files(major minus) There is no copy of the plug-in SDK on the CDROM(major minus) The outside of the box doesn't list functional requirement. Box has cryptic comment, "Give me that hand." Installing it was simple. I installed in on my P90 48meg machine running NT 3.5 (release 807). It copies all the objects/etc from the CD onto your hard disk(lame) if you don't turn it off. I let it since I like to fiddle with things. Takes about 48 megs. Box/manual says it should take 80 meg for a full install, 2 megs for just the software. Since I already had win32s, to get it to work on WfW3.11 all I had to do was make a program group, didn't even need the second disk. Under normal windows you also don't need the NT device driver for the doggle. If you don't have the doggle, you get an error message when starting lightwave or the modeler. It should tell you that you don't have the doggle, but I guess for $1000 you can't get decent text errors. Ok so I have it installed. Wow, big screen 1024x768. It seems zippy. Of course this isn't a slow machine. Big improvement over the A4000/040. Here are some times/benchmarks(your mileage may very): Amiga = A4000/040, 22 megs ram. No toaster. SA 3.5 PC = P90(new fpu version) 48 megs ram, Herc PCI Dynamite Video, ... Blade runner scene on CD. Rendered first frame in Low Res all other options as is. PC(NT) = 217 Seconds Amiga=1452 Sec Speed=6.69x Texture sample, first frame only, stock settings, 9 megs segment ram PC(NT) = 23 Sec PC(WfW)=34 Sec Amiga=200 Sec So it looks like Win 3.11 is a bit slower than NT(10-11 seconds on a simple file). This is 5-8 times faster than the amiga. I've noticed a few things that are new/different from 3.5. There is a preview for your surfaces(renders on a sphere) in the surfaces menu. Some other minor things here and there. It still very much like 3.5 though. If you know one the PC version will feel very comfortable. But all is not so great. Here are some of things I think are problems NewTek should work on fixing: If you resize the window durring a preview playback it crashes. Loading scenes and objects from the built in collection is painful because all the paths are wrong. Ugh! You can only save IFF, Targa, TIFF file formats. You cannot make any ANIM file formats(says thats only for the amiga when you select it). Windows don't repaint when palette games causes it to change colors. No way to go between modler and layout despite the fact that Microsoft has spent millions on DDE, OLE, and RPC. Since it uses no windows controls and/or standards some things you expect from a windows app aren't there: Enter/return doesn't dismiss dialogs (no default buttons/tab support) Colors in the multi-selection pop-ups are impossible to read. Needs to use the windows color database. No windows on-line help. Doesn't bring up the little command summary when you hit F1( Windows version of a help key, new MS keyboard even says help on it) No intro video tape like 3.5 SA(I know Lee and Newtek aren't friends any more. So what. Its busines, just do the deal) Not enough support for PC standards(JPEG, AVI files) No way to view your animations(all it does is make single frames) No single frame viewer for IFF files. No tools to help move files from previous versions. Very un-windows 95 like(I'm not sure I care, but the marketplace will) No Rexx(despite the fact that its mentioned all over Modler I suspect they want to bundle IBM Rexx with it, or at least support it) A bunch of stuff that tells me I can't do that, or its only for the amiga. If I can't do it, get rid of it. This isn't to say its all bad. There are clearly things that need to be addressed(crashes in preview, repaint bugs, etc) and there are things that smart companies do to stay ahead. The first company with a solid product can go a long way. Lightwave PC can be it. The interface is more than sweet, it just needs a bit more polish in the edges. Even just support for AVI files would make me happy. I'm not looking to dump stuff to a PAR, I'm fairly happy with my miro DC1's output. I just want to stop sending files back and forth between the amiga and the PC. And a little speed. But don't kid yourself. For $1000 you buying one floppy and a doggle. And its not quite there as far as ready for prime time goes. But if you make your living doing this. And you have a PC already, it might be worth it. If you do it as an upgrade to 3.5 SA it should only cost you $650-$700 which isn't bad. But if your just playing, you might want to wait till the real release. The picture might not be so fuzzy. Of course right now I do think its the best render/3d system under $1000 on the PC, even with the problems. Now to start writing plug-ins. Need to pay back the cost of this some how. Mathew Sorrels | And thats when I decided to microwave the Diet Coke mdmmds@netcom.com | Std. Disclaimers Apply. YMMV. Member FDIC. From ernie@gaspra.pd.com Sat Apr 22 12:09:54 PDT 1995 Article: 5081 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5081 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!news.rtd.com!gaspra.pd.com!ernie From: Ernie Wright Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Doppler Effect Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:11:46 -0700 Organization: RTD Internet Access, a division of RTD Systems & Networking, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3n3veh$r6p@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3n6439$3rm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3n6439$3rm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Jeff Willoughby wrote (quoting from a book): > Better clarify this. ... > "The Fraunhofer lines will be displaced towards the blue end of the > electromagnetic spectrum, and towards the red end if the source is > receding. However, only motion in the line of sight of the observer > can be detected in this method." I haven't been following along--when did this turn into a science project? An object that's blue as it approaches and red as it recedes must be: 1. Yellow. 2. Changing its distance from the observer (the distance along the "line of sight") at about 40% of the speed of light. Are we trying to model something like that? - Ernie From mcoats@qnet.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5082 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5082 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!qnet.com!cello!mcoats From: Manuel Coats Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:43:14 -0700 Organization: Quantum Networking Solutions, Inc. - (805) 538-2030 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.qnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mcoats@cello In-Reply-To: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> On 19 Apr 1995, Sergio E Rosas wrote: > I have a ? for those of you that might have gone through this allready: > > I have a 1000+ frame anim rendering on my A4000. It will take at least > another month to finish. > > I have a buyer for my 4000 NOW. and he is willing to give me allot. > > If i sell my 4000, and buy a pentium, will my scenefiles be able > to render on LW PC? > > Or are they not compatible? > (i think the scenefile probably is compatible) > So, will everything be compatible? Images/objectfiles/filenames/ etc. > > If i do switch i will be using NT. > > > This is a very important anim to me so i don't want to loose it > in the switch. > > Thanks, > > Sergio Rosas You should be able to use it on your PC fine. Just take your scene files and objects and save them to a PC disk using cross dos, so that when you get your PC al you have to do is load everything from the disk. I save my entire A4000 HD with all my work on it. I'll be transfering everything I need over to the PC side as soon as I got over to a friends house to use cross dos. Take Care. Manny From thierry@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:03 PDT 1995 Article: 5083 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5083 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: thierry@ix.netcom.com (Thierry Humeau) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Flyer DAT Backups Problem Date: 21 Apr 1995 13:06:36 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 54 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n8aks$9eu@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-dc10-02.ix.netcom.com I just got a Sony SDT-5200 DAT drive and am having problems backing up Flyer projects. A call to Newtek Tech Support confirmed that numerous problems have been reported regarding the backup software but I'd be currious to hear from people using or having tried to use this Sony drive. Flyer Backup problem: I can backup everything but video and audio clips located on Flyer A, B or C drives. Every attempt to backup a project containing audio or video clips will bring up a message in the backup window saying: Backing up file "FlyerA:......" ...... Failed! Error Sense Data: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Error during backup! I am using a brand new Sony SDT-5200 DAT drive. It is set to SCSI ID #1,is hooked to my FlyerC audio drive ID #0 and is properly terminated. Data compression option is disable on the DAT drive. Backing up a project containing only Framestores and effects works but when doing a restore, and playing back the restored project, it crashes. The control display, project/files scrolling controls get fuzzy and covered by some gray garbage. Using a directory utility, I noticed that the restored files seem identical in size, name and creation date. Trying to open one of the restored framestore from ADPro gives me a message "error in body". Any comments welcome... Thierry. >>>My configuration: A2000/PP&S Zeus 040/33mhz accelerator w/16 meg ram Workbench 2.1, 68040 lib version 37.4, Setpatch version 38.31 Mega chip 2000, ICD Flicker Free Video display enhancer VT 2000 card, Flyer card #8002315 2 Seagate Elite-9 drives (latest revision #016) 1 Seagate SCSI 2 Hawk , 1 Gig for audio 1 Quantum SCSI 2 Empire, 1 Gig internal Amiga drive. -- ************************************************************** Thierry Humeau tel: 301-933-3008 Cameraman/Producer fax: 301-933-2868 Freelance/TV Networks thierry@ix.netcom.com ************************************************************** From Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM Sat Apr 22 12:08:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5084 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5084 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!agora!nesbbx!Thealy Subject: Re: Separate Windows versions? References: Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) From: Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM (Thomas Healy) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 95 20:54:47 PST Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System Lines: 30 In , jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) writes: > Just to clear up some recent confusion...... > > (This info is from Brad Peebler, NewTek's LW product mananger) > > If you buy LightWave for the Intel version, you will get install disks > that will install it either under NT or normal windows (Win32s will be > installed in this case). There is not a separate version for Nt and for > normal windows. There are however, separate versions for MIPS, Intel and > Alpha cpu's..... > > JG So it will run under normal windows then. With all the articles in VTU talking about NT, I thought it was the only one it would run on. Thomas \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Address: ** LIVE CONCERTS FOR TRADE ** Thealy@nesbbx.rain.com REM, U2, PEARL JAM, THE DOORS + MANY MORE send e-mail if interested, your list gets mine ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From wal@cais.com Sat Apr 22 12:07:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5085 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5085 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news.cais.com!wal.cais.com!wal From: wal@cais.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:37:01 EST Organization: Capital Area Internet Service (CAIS) Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wal.cais.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) writes: >I'm confused. How does backordered upgrades relate to NewTek being in >sever financial distress? >JG Why ship >Pre-release< software to dealers before existing customers? One suggestion: My answer: Because they NEED the $600 or so WAY more than they need the measly (sp?) $149 upgrade fee. IMHO, shipping prerelease to the uninitiated is VERY dangerous for NewTek, and quite frankly, makes no sense whatsoever, UNLESS of course, you have some urgent need for quick cash. NewTek already has a boatload of unhappy campers with the premature release of the Flyer. Since I don't own a slice of NewTek, I really could care less whether they shoot their feet off on this..... P.S. I have been a NewTek customer since Digiview & Digipaint days. One thing I am sure of, Lightwave WILL survive regardless of NewTek. I would like to see Alllen & Stuart form their own company when the current contract w/ NewTek expires, as I think they are THE current driving force at NewTek. Long live Lightwave. wal@cais.com From ajc126@psu.edu Sat Apr 22 12:10:07 PDT 1995 Article: 5086 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5086 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Anthony Cingle Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PAR and video? Date: 21 Apr 1995 14:48:23 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp60.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 16bit) I have a question I hope someone can answer. I'm in the planning stages of doing a yearbook video for the Penn State Blue Band. Currently I have a PAR PC. I'm seriously contemplating buying a TBC IV. What I want to do is record short video segments (10-20 seconds) to the PAR and then use Lightwave to generate the transitions (page peels, tumbles, etc). What I want to know is how good is the video recorded to the PAR. I know that you have to lower the compression level, how bad is the artificating? I'd really appreciate any responses. Thanks. Tony From thierry@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:10 PDT 1995 Article: 5087 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5087 rec.video.desktop:5350 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: thierry@ix.netcom.com (Thierry Humeau) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,rec.video.desktop Subject: Flyer Bugs/Improvements Reports (Long) Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:15:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 633 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n8i6g$cr3@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-dc12-19.ix.netcom.com Hi, Here is a compilation of all the Flyer Bugs/Improvements reports I have sent to Newtek. I though some of you may be interested to take a look at it. Feel free to comment. Thierry. FLYER BUGS/IMPROVEMENT REPORT #1 Date: 4/5/95 From: Thierry Humeau Current software version: 4.02 Tel: 301-933-3008 Fax: 301-933-3868 >>>My configuration: A2000/PP&S Zeus 040/33mhz accelerator w/16 meg ram Workbench 2.1 68040 lib version 37.4, Setpatch version 38.31 Mega chip 2000, ICD Flicker Free Video display enhancer VT 2000 card, Flyer card #8002315 2 Seagate Elite-9 drives (latest revision #016) 1 Seagate SCSI 2 Hawk , 1 Gig for audio 1 Quantum SCSI 2 Empire, 1 Gig internal Amiga drive. Video Quality: ************* Quite a far cry from the D2 quality offered by a $50,000 Sony recorder as Newtek ad claims the digitized video looks in most case good but not as good as Betacam SP..... Video shots with pan moves, fine detailed contrasted areas and high luminance values are the worst to digitize (e.i. wide pans of bare trees in front of a bright overcast sky). Also, digitizing video footage that includes graphic overlays creates sometimes problems. Most of the observable artifacts are moire rainbows and softening/flickering of the video. According to Newtek, this is due to the amount of details and the inability for the drive to keep up with it. I don't quite buy this since I have seen better results with other non-linear edit systems using the same drives.... In result, the digitizing quality drops and the digitized clips loose sharpness. I hope to see further improvements in the VTASC compression scheme ..... Improve Location and Timing of Video/Audio events (CRUTIAL) *********************************************** ********* It is very tricky to properly time audio/video clips relative to Program time and/or background events. There are two essential reasons for this: 1) The program accumulated and total time should be updated after any change made to the project and displayed in the project and/or process windows. 2) While editing an audio or video event in the process window, there is no way to monitor other video/audio tracks overlaping the clip. Example: Cutting video clips onto a background music track, multiple cut-aways on a talking head, etc.... Proposed Solutions: 1) When opening a clip Process window and making changes to the clip edit points, the program time should update while changing clip edit points. Also, selctive monitoring of other audio/video events occuring in the backgound should be possible so the clip being edited can be positioned/timed relative these other events. As an example, you could precisely cut video clips to a music or narration track running in the background, very basic stuff. At present, the only way to do that is to use a stop-watch while playing back the sequence, not so practical..... Such a feature would also greatly facilitate the building of multiple cut-aways on top of a talking head. Has Newtek tech staff seriously tried to insert two or three consecutive cut- aways on a talking head video clip and noticed how tricky it is to match video/audio IN points when the talking face comes back at the end? This is a widely used and very basic editing technique and it should be very easy to complete. 2) We need some kind of slider control that could move to and display any point in the project even if it is located in the middle of a video clip. A "start playing-back from" action should be able to be performed form this point. While shuttling through the Project using this control, audio scrubing should work so precise positioning of further events can be located. Here again, the Program time should be able to update itself while moving though the slider and once a position has been located to either insert or trim audio/video events, they should be a quick and easy way to cut and paste the program TC position. The range of this overall program slider control sould be adjustable with Zoom In/Out controls to allows for presice shuttling through the Project. An alternative could be to have this program control slider to move through the project part currently displayed on the screen. So the differents steps to locate a pecific program postition would be to: - drag the project left sliders until you locate the part of the project you want to work on. - use the new project control slider (may be located accross the screen under the play, stop, process,.... buttons) to move anywhere throug the project displayed part. - press "c" to capture the project time code value of the current cursor position or "i" to insert a new event. 3) Add timing information to the project window. It would be very convenient everytime you highlight a crouton in the project windows to have timing information displayed on the top of the project window next to the program time instead of having to open the clip process window. The information could appear as follows: _______________________________________________ _____________________ Clip name Clip duration Prgm accum. time at Clip Out point Prgm Total duration This should also work when selecting multiple clips, the "Clip duration" would just display the total added time of all the highlighted clips and the Prgm accumulated time would be relative to the last highlighted clip Out point. Improve Clip Process Window Time Code entry (MINOR) ********************************************** 1) Beside the current way to change time-code values, right-clicking and hold on a time- code window could bring up a pull down menu with the different options: - Trim: enter a + or - number of frames - Copy: would copy the displayed time-code onto the clipboard - Paste: would paste the clipboard time-code onto the time-code window New Clip Window: ***************** - It would be nice to be able to save audio or video clips directly into Flyer drives created sub-folder so we would not have to do the long and tedious process of going to the files/files mode, drag the croutons to the proper directory and delete the previous ones. - The audio meters should have a range of leds like you can find on any tape deck or receiver. This would facilitate the adjustement of an optimal audio input level. Time Code capture (IMPORTANT) ******************************* I'd really like to be wrong here but I understand that you opted for an RS-232 protocol to read VTR time code form the Flyer serial connectors. I cannot beleive that this choice was made considering than today, RS-422 is the defacto standard for most of the industrial/broadcast machine controls. Is there any easy way to use these serial ports as RS-422? I know about the Horita TC/RS-232 translator but that's an extra $500 and an extra box to add to the system. Improve Audio level adjustment. There is no easy way to program and variate the level of a music track playing over sound bytes or narration. (CRUTIAL) *********************************************** *********************** >From the Audio Clip Process window, we should be able to have the option to monitor other audio tracks while shuttling through the clip. Moving the slider would allow monitoring of other audio tracks overlaping this audio clip, locate, mark and assign keyframes with an audio level assigned to them. To avoid changing the already set In and Out points, just clicking within the marked audio clip range could add a third slider just to shuttle through the clip to look for positioning information. This could also be implemented in the video clips process windows. TPaint Video Clip Processing. (IMPORTANT) ***************************************** - All these processing capabilities are really nice but they are also very slow. Don't you think you should try to bypass loading clip image in TPaint and do Clip processing direclty from the Project interface using plug-ins or arexx macros that don't call up TPaint? I am not a programmer so I don't know how difficult this would be but as a user point of view, all the process you can do on a VTASC clip now is really slow to render even on my 68040/33mhz machine. However, rotoscoping always takes time and using TPaint for that seems to have potential. Miscelleneous: ************* - In the Files/Files interface mode, they should be an option to move and not copy files from one window to the other. May be after having selected croutons and dragging them to an other window, a requester could offer a moving or copying alternative. - Keyboard shortcuts for all basic operations would be welcome. FLYER BUGS/IMPROVEMENTs REPORT#2 Much Needed Improvements in Flyer software on a daily user side: - You must find a way to help us locate and time events relative to the program time. Right now, the program time is useless since it displays only the total project time and only when playing back a project all the way through. Any of the following features added ASAP would make our life much easier. Thanks for taking a close look at these notes and having little thoughts for agonizing Flyer editors...... 1) More Timing Information : We need more timing information displayed in the top of the project window and here is my opinion: _______________________________________________ ____________ Clip Clip Program Program Total Program Name Duration TC In TC Out Duration A program accumulated duration and total duration update displayed in the top of the screen that would update itself in real time everytime a change is made. The accumulated duration display should be relative to the last highlighted clip In and Out points in the project window. This feature should work while editing clips in the Process window so beside the clip In and Out point, the editor could also relate to the Program In and Outs which is critical 50% of the time. 2) Playback of Other Clips While in the Process Window: I know that there are some hardware limitations but I feel that the Flyer could handle playing back at least one extra video/audio track on top of the clip being edited. It would be awesome for fine tuning purposes to be able to select from the process or the project windows, at least one other video/audio track to monitor while fine tuning the clip. ex: a good one here would be adjusting a video clip to fit in between two beats of an audio crouton triggered several clips earlier (e.i. music video editing technique) 3) Hot key for Capture of Program Time Code One other thing which could be (I thing) simple to integrate would be a hot key (maybe just g for "get" or "grab" time code) that would allow the editor to capture the program time while playing back the project or portion of the project. The grabbed time code could be automatically copied onto the clipboard and pasted in the clips process window if you manage to give us the possibility to edit these clips by also changing their program In and Out points. Assuming that the program timing information mentioned in 1) is working this could be a workaround to precisely time clips relative to the program time if monitoring other tracks as mentioned in paragraph 2) is for now too complicated. New Various Bugs Discovered: Project Interface / Sequencing of Events: - For some reason, audio playback of audio only clip or split audio portion of a video clip does not work if "playing from" a clip located right after or still overlaping these audio clips. A real pain in the butt..... - The requirements for loading FS and effects are now really udge and I can barely sequence several FS together if their duration is set to under 5 sec. And that's just using 1 sec dissolves. As far as I remember, .94 was doing better than that. TPaint 2000 (too buggy to sort it out but anyway, these are just a few...) - Major problem with display buffers managment. Have you seriously tried it? - Make Flyer Stills describe in Flyer tutorials does not work - Could we flip back to the 2000 1/4 display for better painting precision and resolution. The magnify mode is still awfull and really hard to use? - Cutting out brushes and pasting them stamps B&W garbage at top left of the screen. - Fill tools work whenever they want - etc..... Toaster CG - Scroll pages don't support drop shadows - Some scroll pages seem to freeze the system. At least it happened to me after having setup a scroll page using Bodoni 40 pts saving it and putting it in a project. - I cannot get the "Startup Script" to work - The "Chart Font" script is great but can get really screwy depending of the font you are trying it on. FLYER BUGS REPORT #3: Audio-Only clips or Split Audio portion of Video Clips do not playback when doing a "play from" command. Any audio-only clip or split audio portion of a Video Clip located prior to the start of a "play-from" operation does not playback. This is a real pain in the butt since there is no way to check if added clips are syncing correcly with the audio without playing back the Project from the begining. For example, let say you're working on a 20 min. video with a 20 min. narration track that has been laid down in the project as one audio clip locked to first video clip in the project. If you're editing some new clips, let's say 15 min. into the audio clip and want to playback from there to check your beatifull work, you're screwed.... The narration doesn't playback in the background unless you playback the all thing from it's begining and wait patiently 15 min. until you get to the part of the project you're editing. Want to trim the last video clip you laid downz? well, you'll have to go for an other 15 min coffee break..... Use of Flyer Stills in a Project affects timing of Audio-Only clips located prior to the clip where doing a "playback from" command: After inserting Flyer Stills into a project that has one audio-only clip after the first video clip in the Project, everytime I'd try to do a playback from one of the Flyer Stills or from other clips located after the audio-only clip, they'd trigger the audio- clip located at the begining of the project for no reason. Also, when playing back the all thing from the begining, everything sequences okay but it's really annoying not being able to correctly test playback a project containing audio- only clips using the "play from" command. Note: If you ad a Split-Audio Clip prior to the point you are trying to play back from, it will bahave differently. FLYER BUGS REPORT #4: Flyer Backup: I can backup everything but video and audio clips located on Flyer A, B or C drives. Every attempt to backup a project containing audio or video clips will bring up a message in the backup window saying: Backing up file "FlyerA:......" ...... Failed! Error Sense Data: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Error during backup! I am using a brand new Sony SDT-5200 DAT drive. It is set to SCSI ID #1,is hooked to my FlyerC audio drive ID #0 and is properly terminated. Data compression option is disable on the DAT drive. Backing up a project containing only Framestores and effects works without problems. Any suggestions??? New Digitizing settings do not work: In a previous fax, I mentioned that the new *standard and *extended mode accessible though the Alt-Alt-~ keyboard combination worked. Well, they worked until you turn off the system and reboot it later. Then, when you try playing back those clips digitized at these new resolution settings, they flicker really bad and show some chroma shifts. Something similar to what LW anims were doing under .94 Cutting Room should be optional: Please, in next software update, allow us to disable "Cutting Room". It is annoying when recording new single clips to have to move through two different windows. Also, Cutting Room is a nice idea, it is somewhat buggy and really slow. It takes for ever on my 68040/33 amiga to process. About 2 to 3 minutes for just 10 clips. Please, do not waist to much time on improving CR for now at least. "Dropped Frames" message when Digitizing New Clips: Many times I start digitizing new clips, I am getting the "dropped frames" error message. The second try usually works. Over five or six minutes of recording time, the "dropped frames" message often appears and recording stops. I found this really wierd since under .94, I could digitized 20 min. clips without any problems. The "dropped Frames" errors don't seem to be linked to resolution modes selected. Clips Processing: 1) It would be nice when processing a clip from the clip process window to have the option to either create a new clip or write over. For example, when you just want to change the clip representative crouton, when processing it to do so, the software creates a copy of the processed clip with a new representative crouton. You then have to delete the original clip and rename the one just created. This is a slow process. 2) I discover a few keyboard controls when in a clip process window. I really like the arrow to playback or do frame by frame advance. For some reason, the audio doesn't play back when using the arrows key to move through the clips. Are these keyboard controls documented anywhere? 3) I whish we could be able to edit or process clips from the files window as well. Minimum Clip Length: If you want to market the Flyer as a system to produce cool videos, you must allow cutting clips of less than 10 frames! It's very important but I don't know what's the limitation here. I just hope this is possible..... Some Wipes Effects are not working properly: The following wipes: - Wipe in Corner TL-BR and BL - Wipe L-R and R-L - Wipe B-T and T-B are not working properly. The wipe patten does not seem correct and they put the VT out of sync after they excecute. TPaint 2000 very buggy: I mentioned this one before but I am just reminding you again: - buffer display scheme does not work properly - new full screen display really dropped painting resolution - etc, etc,...... FLYER BUGS REPORT #5: Toaster Paint: 1) A "Save frame" operation usually always aborts on the first try. The second try always work. 2) Sometimes and I could not exactly identify when this happens, the color control pannel turns mostly black and the "edge" "center" , "flip range", etc.... buttons located on the right of the color control pannel dispear. 3) Redo operations don't take place at the proper location and sometimes crash the software. 4) Text brushes create annoying gosted images on the top left corner of the display. Flyer Backup: I can backup everything but video and audio clips located on Flyer A, B or C drives. Every attempt to backup a project containing audio or video clips will bring up a message in the backup window saying: Backing up file "FlyerA:......" ...... Failed! Error Sense Data: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Error during backup! I am using a brand new Sony SDT-5200 DAT drive. It is set to SCSI ID #1,is hooked to my FlyerC audio drive ID #0 and is properly terminated. Data compression option is disable on the DAT drive. Backing up a project containing only Framestores and effects works but when doing a restore, and playing back the restored project, it crashes. The control display, project/files scrolling controls get fuzzy and covered by some gray color. Using a directory utility, I noticed that the restored files seem identical in size, name and creation date. Trying to open one of the restored framestore from ADPro gives me a message "error in body". Double Booting Flyer: When quitting Flyer software and rebooting it, it freezes New Digitizing settings do not work: In a previous fax, I mentioned that the new *standard and *extended mode accessible though the Alt-Alt-~ keyboard combination worked. Well, they worked until you turn off the system and reboot it later. Then, when you try playing back those clips digitized at these new resolution settings, they flicker really bad and show some chroma inversion. You mentioned that this occurs because I should have entered the "*modes" prior to playback these clips. I have tried this but the "*quality" recorded clips still do not playback correclty. -- ************************************************************** Thierry Humeau tel: 301-933-3008 Cameraman/Producer fax: 301-933-2868 Freelance/TV Networks thierry@ix.netcom.com ************************************************************** From srosas@cs.tamu.edu Sat Apr 22 12:10:19 PDT 1995 Article: 5088 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5088 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.tamu.edu!srosas From: srosas@cs.tamu.edu (Sergio E Rosas) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: WTB: TBC IV & PC PAR Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:29:09 GMT Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3n8j05$cg7@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.cs.tamu.edu For all of you retooling for DPS Perception.... I want a used TBC IV and PC PAR email ser2511@tam2000.tamu.edu, or reply to this address Thanks SR From wayneo@outside.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:22 PDT 1995 Article: 5089 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5089 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.i.net!news.world.net!usenet From: wayneo@outside.com (wayneo) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: How is LW for Creating Character Aninmations? Date: 21 Apr 1995 15:53:43 GMT Organization: Internetworks, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3n8ke7$c4m@pdx1.i.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wayneo.outside.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ I'd like to know if LW is fully capable of producing character aninimation sequences. How does it compare to Studio 3D for this purpose? Thanks. From Brad.Bowman@daytonoh.ncr.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:17 PDT 1995 Article: 5090 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5090 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.cs.columbia.edu!news.nyc.pipeline.com!psinntp!ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub6!daynews!ranger!news From: Brad Bowman Subject: Re: LW PC Macros? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: 149.25.26.106 Message-ID: Sender: news@ranger.daytonoh.attgis.com (News Administrative Login) Reply-To: Brad.Bowman@daytonoh.ncr.com Organization: AT&T GIS X-Newsreader: DiscussIT for Windows (1.8.6) [Software Products Division of AT&T/NCR] References: <3n3lhn$q5i@news.tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:47:02 GMT Lines: 10 I believe NewTek has a plug-in SDK available. Brad Bowman Technical Consultant and 3D Animator - AT&T Global Information Solutions - Dayton, Ohio If you think your job is boring, you probably need to upgrade your software The Views Expressed by Me are Not Neccessarily the Views of AT&T (Mine are Cool) From camcollect@aol.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5091 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5091 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: camcollect@aol.com (CamCollect) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW 4.0 in stock Date: 21 Apr 1995 12:35:28 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n8msg$m3b@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: camcollect@aol.com (CamCollect) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com We have LW 4.0 (Intel only) versions in stock, NewTek says Alpha versions should ship to us today and MIPS next week. Greg Milneck, Jr. The Video Company Baton Rouge, LA, USA camcollect@aol.com From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Sat Apr 22 12:08:31 PDT 1995 Article: 5092 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5092 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:14:02 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 22 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n1alk$7e1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <137410@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <137410@cup.portal.com>, Jeric@cup.portal.com (J Eric Chard) wrote: >>I think NewTek's new PC toaster (gee I hate that name) has a slight edge >>over the rest of the NLE crowd because it is portable. > > > Yeah, thereby meeting that big pent-up demand of those who wish > to edit in their cars....... :^) > :) What's wrong with editing in the car? Well, the one thing that has illuded the NL business so far is the two step process you have to go through just to get your video editable. Back in the online days, you'd capture your live event on video, take that tape and start editing. One transfer - one generation loss. With NL, you capture your event, REcapture your event, edit, and lay your edit back to tape (assuming tape is your output). That's alot of generations. This portable Flyer thingy will at least help that out a little. Capture the event -> edit -> lay to tape. It's about time. You's think the Avid or Media 100 folks would have thought of that a long time ago. Brian From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Sat Apr 22 12:10:14 PDT 1995 Article: 5093 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5093 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: PAR and video? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:31:25 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 32 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n8q6e$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu>, Anthony Cingle wrote: >I have a question I hope someone can answer. I'm in the planning stages of doing a >yearbook video for the Penn State Blue Band. Currently I have a PAR PC. I'm >seriously contemplating buying a TBC IV. What I want to do is record short video >segments (10-20 seconds) to the PAR and then use Lightwave to generate the >transitions (page peels, tumbles, etc). What I want to know is how good is the >video recorded to the PAR. I know that you have to lower the compression level, how >bad is the artificating? I'd really appreciate any responses. Thanks. > >Tony > In our experience, the PAR is excellent for "people scenes". The only times we saw unusable artifacting was when we'd have very bright colors up against other very bright colors and moving. We use the PAR to grab lots of shots of "talking heads" and other inherently "easy" things to digitize. We love the PAR and can't wait to see what DPS's new Perception has to offer. Your project you talked about above is really the type of project the PAR does best. You'll be able to grab good looking video, use the frames in LW w/o hassle, and then lay back your "LW edited" video to tape through the PAR. Brian bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu From ren_hoek@ids.net Sat Apr 22 12:10:33 PDT 1995 Article: 5094 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5094 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!ids!ren_hoek From: ren_hoek@ids.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave questions Date: 21 Apr 95 14:09:30 EST Organization: The IDS World Network Internet Access Service Lines: 15 Message-ID: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> NNTP-Posting-Host: ids.net I have several questions about Lightwave, and I would appreciate any answers: 1) Amiga vs. PC Lightwave- Which is better. Many people have told me that the PC version can't possibly touch the Amiga one, but I have recently read an article in one of the PC mags that states just the opposite. 2) Is the NT version out yet? If so, how is it? If not, when will it be out? 3) How should I get started learning Lightwave? (i.e. any suggestions for reading books or mags, video tape tutorials, etc...) Thanks, ralph From shf@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:09:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5095 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5095 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: Lightwave PC 4.0 first look Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:06:38 GMT Lines: 22 Sender: shf@netcom4.netcom.com +-- mdmmds@netcom.com (Matthew Sorrels) writes: | Texture sample, first frame only, stock settings, 9 megs segment ram | PC(NT) = 23 Sec PC(WfW)=34 Sec Amiga=200 Sec Did you try this with render feedback on and off? With "Show render progress" turned off, the two windows versions may be closer to the same. | Enter/return doesn't dismiss dialogs (no default buttons/tab support) It should. It does in Modeler anyway. | Doesn't bring up the little command summary when you hit F1 It does in LightWave, and it will in the final Modeler. | Not enough support for PC standards(JPEG, AVI files) These will be plug-ins in the final. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?" From jwalkup@crl.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5096 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5096 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!crl!jwalkup From: jwalkup@crl.com (Jeff Walkup) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: What is Lightwave. Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:56:49 GMT Organization: WalkupNet Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3n8v5h$jlc@nntp.crl.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crl3.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL3] Peter Höhsl (amadeus@active.co.za) wrote: : I have been a 3D Studio user for quite some time now and recently heard about : this package called LightWave. What is it about and where can I find : information with regard to it's features, price and availlabillity. Also - : does it run on PC's? You should web over to: http://www.newtek.com/ And read the articles in this group. The Windows version is supposed to be coming out "soon". -- Jeff Walkup . jwalkup@crl.com . http://www.crl.com/~jwalkup/ From 72620.1654@CompuServe.COM Sat Apr 22 12:08:07 PDT 1995 Article: 5097 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5097 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!news.inhouse.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Don Peterson <72620.1654@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: RAPTOR 3's Processer-Independent technology? Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:41:07 GMT Organization: DeskStation Technology, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3n91oj$ej0$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> References: <3n1ijm$4i4@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> >>My question is: Does having the processor independent of the motherboard >>really make the Raptor 3 immune to obselence? Samuel Paik wrote: >This bus bandwidth is really low. It wasn't indicated anywhere, perhaps >they have another path to memory? Otherwise, you're likely to saturate >the memory bandwidth with almost any non-trivial workload. The bandwidth to main memory is at least four times faster than 32-bit PCI. In tests against the 21164 reference design that DEC is working on and that we understand some clone vendors are attempting to spin into a product, the Raptor 3, running a series of Lightwave 3D test renders, was about 10 percent faster. The DEC board even had faster cache RAMs than did the Raptor 3 we tested against it and it was still 10 percent faster. DEC put a 256-bit wide bus to cache memory on the reference design. The Raptor 3 has a 128-bit bus. Why didn't the DEC design win? I don't know. Forget the techno-babble, real-life application tests are what matter. Raptor 3 wins . . . at least this round:-) -- Don Peterson DeskStation Technology "Where the Raptor was born" From djr@infinet.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5098 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5098 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!mstar!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!infinet!djr From: djr@infinet.com (Dan J. Rockwell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:42:30 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 45 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.infinet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: : Well, the one thing that has illuded the NL business so far is the two step : process you have to go through just to get your video editable. Back in the : online days, you'd capture your live event on video, take that tape and start : editing. One transfer - one generation loss. With NL, you capture your : event, REcapture your event, edit, and lay your edit back to tape (assuming : tape is your output). That's alot of generations. This portable Flyer thingy : will at least help that out a little. Capture the event -> edit -> lay to : tape. It's about time. You's think the Avid or Media 100 folks would have : thought of that a long time ago. : Brian Are you saying tradional editing is less generations than NL? Come on now. With tradtional its camera, tape, stick it in a deck, do a few generations for nice compositing and cg layering then out put to tape. With NL its camera to tape - tape to NL once digital inside teh computer its layer till yer hearts conent then output to tape. Unless of course you have an 800k analog system that has a few dozen gizmos not to mention an editor that can do everything in once nice likeable pass. This portable Flyer gizmo isnt the final solution. Sure it will do a simple cut in the field, a good camera man can do that. The big thing is move the Toaster and the flyer to a somewhat reliable platform that is still alive - IMHO and then actually make softare on it. They dont have a CG, paint, or effects solution yet. - IMHO. Tellin me Lightwave will be the CG doesnt cut it for me. I'd like to say that at NAB they only showed dissolves, not even a simple wipe was shown, sure they showed nice rendered dve wipes I count two total, and what if you change yer mind, just rerender, you cant even preview the,mm from the flyer storyboard. This box is far, far, far from complete. Nice idea, keep working. Sorry I'm a bit distrubed today, my 4th amiga 4000 for a customer has died, right now due to a neat "green aga" effect that is motherboard related. Not only that but NewTek's 4.02 is hardly what i'd call working nicely so Avid's and Media 100's are lookin pretty nice to me.... they work and if there is techy problems i'm not strung out on a string.... Dan From jgross@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:22 PDT 1995 Article: 5099 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5099 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Separate Windows versions? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:00:46 GMT Lines: 8 Sender: jgross@netcom18.netcom.com : So it will run under normal windows then. With all the articles in VTU : talking about NT, I thought it was the only one it would run on. Nope. NewTek's brochures,etc all say for Windows, Windows NT, Etc. etc. NT is just the 'preferred' OS. JG From jgross@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:07:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5100 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5100 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 22:04:18 GMT Lines: 6 Sender: jgross@netcom18.netcom.com : Why ship >Pre-release< software to dealers before existing customers? Because they were getting a lot of heat form dealers overseas and here to ship. JG From redmanm@cris.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5101 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5101 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!csusac!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!atglab.bls.com!usenet From: Mark Redman Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Play/trinity usenet groups Date: 21 Apr 1995 21:02:22 GMT Organization: BellSouth ATG lab Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3n96gu$cms@atglab10.atglab.bls.com> References: <3mpe68$hkj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bstfirewall.bst.bls.com keatah@aol.com (Keatah) wrote: > > Are there any newsgroups for Play, inc.'s Trinity ?? Could someone please post what the proposed features of the new products are? From Norman@eisner.decus.org Sat Apr 22 12:10:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5102 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5102 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave questions Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 21 Apr 1995 22:19:15 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov In article <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids>, ren_hoek@ids.net wrote: > I have several questions about Lightwave, and I would appreciate any answers: > > 1) Amiga vs. PC Lightwave- Which is better. Many people have told me that the > PC version can't possibly touch the Amiga one, but I have recently read an > article in one of the PC mags that states just the opposite. > Depends on what machine you have. If you don't have an Amiga, they are currently hard to get and even harder to get repaired. The PC version is an initial release of a port from the Amiga. So NO it is NOT better YET in terms of the user interface. BUT... Render times are faster on the PC if you have something like a Pentium 90 (about 6 times faster than a stock Amiga 4000/040). So in that regard a PC is already better. See c.s.a.advocacy for discussions of Amiga VS pc. > 2) Is the NT version out yet? If so, how is it? Yes it is out. Newtek is selling upgrades only. NewTek dealers are selling to new customers. The NT version is available for alpha,intel, & mips. The down side is that this is not a full blown release in that the manuals and what not are not complete yet, but when they are they'll be sent. Newtek has been pretty good about that in the past. > 3) How should I get started learning Lightwave? (i.e. any suggestions for > reading books or mags, video tape tutorials, etc...) Lee Stranahan's tapes. Mark Thompson is working on a combo tape and CDrom which should be real good. EVen if Newtek was shipping completed manuals you'd still want to watch some tapes to get the most out of it. <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From cevanim@aol.com Sat Apr 22 12:07:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5103 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5103 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: 21 Apr 1995 18:21:20 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n9b50$r86@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com go ahead and throw the lamp.... But why, these problems at NEWTEK have very easy resolutions. The new big honcho (Attorney) didn't think to estimate and prepare the number of LW4.0 packages that they would need. How could they be out of stock at 7:40 in the morning California time ? If they have the reputed cash flow problem that we all here about the first thing the new General Manager and the Finance Manager do is project their sales of the new product....Then the GM makes certain they have product.!!!!!! In most corporations that type of blunder would cost the GM his job. Boards of Directors don't buy into incompetence. Just a thought. And when I do get 4.0 I'm sure the blood will quit boiling. Ed CEVAnim@aol.com From Norman@eisner.decus.org Sat Apr 22 12:10:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5104 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5104 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Play/trinity usenet groups Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Date: 21 Apr 1995 22:49:00 GMT Organization: Entropy Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <3mpe68$hkj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3n96gu$cms@atglab10.atglab.bls.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov In article <3n96gu$cms@atglab10.atglab.bls.com>, Mark Redman wrote: > keatah@aol.com (Keatah) wrote: > > > > Are there any newsgroups for Play, inc.'s Trinity ?? > > Could someone please post what the proposed features of the new products > are? Just saw a very colorful professional brochure on it from NAB. On the back they give an 800 # for ordering a free video. sorry don't have the # but you can get it from information. Bad news: VERY expensive. For Switcher, NLE, & 3d effects like they were showing at NAB you are talking at least $15k before drives and computer! Not exactly aimed at the PVP market. Good news: VERY powerful and modular. So you can get the base unit with toaster like features for about $5K and add the other stuff later. Bad news: Modular. What was that other modular toaster-killer... oh yeah Opal-fizzle. ;-) Good news: VERY powerful 3d effects being demoed. It basically has a plug in card with multiple processors that map and compress live video onto 3d shapes in REAL time with no aliasing. Bad news: powerful 3d effects card costs $7-8K Bad news: when will it ship? <<<<======================================================================= Richard Norman norman@eisner.decus.org AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation Amiga Networking FAQ /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh Inputs appreciated! =======================================================================>>>> From davewarner@globalone.net Sat Apr 22 12:10:40 PDT 1995 Article: 5105 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5105 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave questions Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:32:34 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3n9fai$332@shell.globalone.net> References: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] ren_hoek@ids.net wrote: : 3) How should I get started learning Lightwave? (i.e. any suggestions for : reading books or mags, video tape tutorials, etc...) Subscribe to LightWavePro and buy as many back issues as you can get your hands on! Buy all of Lee Stranahan's videotapes, too... -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From Redmanm@cris.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:50 PDT 1995 Article: 5106 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5106 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!warp.cris.com!viking.cris.com!Redmanm From: Redmanm@cris.com (Christina Rogers) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Perception NL Software Date: 22 Apr 1995 00:13:19 GMT Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3n9hmv$7rc@warp.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: viking-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Razor Pro. Thanks. Now, let me in on what Razor Pro is (We are a Toaster Shop). Thanks. From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:13 PDT 1995 Article: 5107 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5107 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW PC Macros? Message-ID: <5498.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 21 Apr 95 00:24:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n3lhn$q5i@news.tamu.edu> Lines: 16 -> Or how do you go about learning the ins and outs of plug-in coding -> for LW PC I code on Turbo C on the PC. And I would like -> to try to code plugins for LW. Subscribe to the LightWave plug in mailing list. Send e-mail to listerv@netcom.com In the message body say "subscribe lwplugin-l" your e-mail address. Also docs and example source code are available from ftp.newtek.com or tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu pub/lw Even though I'm not a programmer, reading the docs gave me a very good idea of what sort of things it is possible to do with plug-ins, i.e. almost anything you want. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5108 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5108 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Message-ID: <5499.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 21 Apr 95 00:27:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> Lines: 13 -> to render on LW PC? -> -> Or are they not compatible? -> (i think the scenefile probably is compatible) -> So, will everything be compatible? Images/objectfiles/filenames/ -> etc. Just tried it today on a Dec Alpha and it worked fine. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pmshark@aol.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:02 PDT 1995 Article: 5109 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5109 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pmshark@aol.com (PMshark) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: What is Lightwave. Date: 21 Apr 1995 22:04:24 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 7 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n9o78$1uh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: pmshark@aol.com (PMshark) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Stand by for large "wave" of answers to your question. If not feel free to email me at PMshark@aol.com and I'd be happy to fill you in as to what Lightwave is. Take care, PJ From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sat Apr 22 12:11:24 PDT 1995 Article: 5110 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5110 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: CBM's assets sold?!? Date: 22 Apr 1995 02:51:31 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 109 Message-ID: <3n9qvj$dn5@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Seems like it may actually be over; at least according to the editor of Amiga-Link who says that he attended the hearing today, April 21st. I'm including his message without any comment, except that he doesn't mention anything about IBM's concern over patents licensed to CBM that were seemingly included in the assets. Take it for what you will. I thougth that this would be appropriate to post here as it affects many who still are tied into the Toaster for Lightwave... INCLUDED MESSAGE: >From news.xmission.com!xmission!halesk Fri Apr 21 20:35:35 1995 Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: NEWS 21 April 95 Date: 22 Apr 1995 01:34:22 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 83 Message-ID: <3n9meu$bgb@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Today, after 12 long months, the C= bankruptcy FINALLY ended. And, like the whole bankruptcy up to now, it was not without many problems. In the auction on April 20, only two companies had bid, Escom and Dell. Escom was the German computer retailer, and Dell is a big American computer company. CEI, long thought to be a bidder, had thrown in their hat with Dell, so that Dell would work with CEI on the Amiga, although CEI would be the ones running the show in respects to the Amiga. Escom's bid was the starting bid of approximately 5 million dollars, as well as the money they spent on the C= trademark, approximately 1.3 million dollars. Dell made a bid at 2 PM of an undiclosed amount. However, that bid was rejected for Escom's bid, because it had conditions attached to it, whereas Escom's bid was unconditional. After the auction ended, and Escom's bid was accepted, Dell continued to work on, trying to make a more suitable bid. Their second bid was a $15 million bid, with the condition that they be allowed a 30 day waiting period to look at the Amiga and decide if they wanted to keep it. If they decided not to keep it, they would forfeit their $1 million deposit, and the whole process of getting another bidder would have to go on again. In the hearing on Friday, April 21, the Creditor's Commitee wanted to accept Dell/CEI's bid. However, Escom felt that was unfair, because Dell's bid was placed after Escom's bid was accepted. There was much legal wrangling, but finally, the judge asked that during the recess the parties try to work out an agreement. After 3 hours, the court re-adjurned, and Escom said that they would agree to raise their bid by $6.5 million, to 12 million dollars. Although that was less than Dell/CEI's bid of $15 million dollars, the Creditor's agreed to drop the objection to stop Escom winning the Amiga, because Dell could back out of the deal and then they'd have to go through the process again. Escom is working with a Chinese manufacturer to make Amigas, and they said that they should have new Amigas on the market within 2 months. They have said that they are interested in upgrading the Amiga to the Power PC chip, although they have said that the future is wide open, and that no technical decisions are set in stone. They have already hired many former C= technicians and workers to work on the Amiga once again. Escom has said that they will sell Amigas in all their stores, and that they may also use the Amiga technology in other products, such as set-top boxes, as well as possibly liscencing Amiga technology to other companies interested in making Amiga clones. Escom has sales of approximately 2 billion dollars last year. Escom apparently wants to enter the American computer market, but felt that entering with PCs alone would be very tough, as there are already many PC retailers in America. As such, they wanted to have a new technology, such as the Amiga, to bring to American markets. Escom has said that they will be setting up an American operation very soon. Commodore UK did not place a bid at the auction, apparently because their backer dropped out. However, Colin Proudfoot of C= UK and Escom have both stated that it 2 weeks they will be holding talks as to Escom either liscencing Amiga technology to C= UK, or, more likely, buying C= UK. Escom has said that they will work with Amiga developers, user groups, and the Internet to support the Amiga. The Phillipine plant and stock in it wasn't included in the auction, but it will most likely be sold to Escom for $1 million soon, because it may actually be illegal to sell it to anyone other than Escom. All this information is true. I was at the hearing on April 21, all 8 hours of it. I would like to thank Jason Compton, for bringing so much news to the Amiga community during the dark time of the buyout. I would also like to thank Georgio Gomelsky, for bringing me into the Commdore hearing and getting me interviews with Colin Proudfoot and the head of the Amiga operations at Escom, and the great Amiga PD/Shareware developers, who make some of the best products out there for little monetary compensation. And finally, I'd like to thank the whole Amiga community. You guys have given me some of the best times of my life, and for that I am eternally grateful. Joshua Galun Editor-in-Chief of Amiga Link Magazine -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From edgore@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:11:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5111 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5111 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!edgore From: edgore@netcom.com (Edwin Gore) Subject: Where can I get LW (intel) Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 03:03:37 GMT Lines: 10 Sender: edgore@netcom7.netcom.com Are there any SF Bay area dealers with a copy of Lightwave 4.0 Intel for sale? If so set one aside and drop me mail...I'll drive down and pick it up as soon as I get the message. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! edgore@netcom.com ! Subscribe the Strata Mailing list! ! ! Opinions are mine, ! Email "subscribe strata-list" ! ! unless you want 'em ! to listserv@netcom.com...or don't... ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnc@MCS.COM Sat Apr 22 12:08:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5112 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5112 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 21 Apr 1995 23:26:53 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 24 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3na0id$nnd@Mercury.mcs.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: > Well, the one thing that has illuded the NL business so far is the two step > process you have to go through just to get your video editable. Back in the > online days, you'd capture your live event on video, take that tape and start > editing. One transfer - one generation loss. With NL, you capture your > event, REcapture your event, edit, and lay your edit back to tape (assuming > tape is your output). That's alot of generations. This portable Flyer thingy > will at least help that out a little. Capture the event -> edit -> lay to > tape. It's about time. You's think the Avid or Media 100 folks would have > thought of that a long time ago. Didn't get to go to NAB, eh? Avid definitely thought of it, they were showing a camera-dockable hard drive package made for Ikegami cameras. You shoot, slide the drive out of the back of the camera, slide it into the Avid disk array, and start editing. Pretty slick. Pretty expensive, too! But that's what you'd expect from Avid. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Sat Apr 22 12:08:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5113 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5113 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:39:02 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 49 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3na8b9$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com>, djr@infinet.com (Dan J. Rockwell) wrote: >TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: > >: Well, the one thing that has illuded the NL business so far is the two step >: process you have to go through just to get your video editable. Back in the >: online days, you'd capture your live event on video, take that tape and start >: editing. One transfer - one generation loss. With NL, you capture your >: event, REcapture your event, edit, and lay your edit back to tape (assuming >: tape is your output). That's alot of generations. This portable Flyer thingy >: will at least help that out a little. Capture the event -> edit -> lay to >: tape. It's about time. You's think the Avid or Media 100 folks would have >: thought of that a long time ago. > >: Brian > >Are you saying tradional editing is less generations than NL? Come on now. >Dan I guess that's kinda what it sounded like, but it's not what I meant. I meant the hassle of having to obtain your raw footage *twice* before any editing decisions ahve been made. It's more of a principle thing, I guess. There's really no reason (other than cost) that a standard for capturing raw video to a hard disk recorder hasn't been attempted. Everybody has their scheme - Avid, Media 100, NewTek's VTASC, etc... But all of these (except for the future Flyer box) still rely heavily on what tape format you can originally capture to. As a small "video guy", I might be able to afford the Flyer and the computer equipment that is necessary to build a nice little NL system. But, BetaSP stuff is way out of my price range, so I'm limited to either Hi8 or SVHS quality to start with unless I want to bring a computer setup to a shoot. Even then it's hard to juggle the controls on the Flyer as opposed to just letting tape roll. However, a truly portable DDR could greatly increase the qualtiy of my final output simply because I'm not limited by the quality of my original "capture" gear (ie video camera and deck). Hell, I could still output to BetaSP without ever owning or renting any BeatSP gear. All I'd need is a friend or a service bureau where I could hook up my Flyer to a record deck and play back the edited piece. So no, I never meant to say that a old fashioned tape setup was better quality-wise. It just made more sense to take your capture medium and edit it directly to your output medium. Brian From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Sat Apr 22 12:08:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5114 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5114 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:42:31 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 20 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3na8ho$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3na0id$nnd@Mercury.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3na0id$nnd@Mercury.mcs.com>, johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) wrote: >Didn't get to go to NAB, eh? Avid definitely thought of it, they were >showing a camera-dockable hard drive package made for Ikegami cameras. >You shoot, slide the drive out of the back of the camera, slide it into >the Avid disk array, and start editing. Pretty slick. Pretty expensive, too! >But that's what you'd expect from Avid. > Ahh...no. I'm a lowly programmer whose interests happen to overlap into video and LightWave. Not enough to justify going to NAB on my own expense. ::shrug:: This is good news, however. The direct to disk idea is one that is very predictable. Actually, I was telling a friend not two weeks ago that it shouldn't be that hard to make a "dockable hard disk recorder" for any dockable camera. It certainly makes sense. Brian From wturber@primenet.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:53 PDT 1995 Article: 5115 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5115 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip002.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:29:43 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <3n69d3$2ta@hermes.unt.edu> <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip002.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net> awb@ais.net writes: >From: awb@ais.net >Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? >Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:41:29 GMT >> >> The same is true for some of the 32 bit stuff in Windows itself. WinNT is 32 >> bit. Win9X will be 32 bit. But Windows 3.1 and WFWG3.11 are both 16 bit >> systems. Win32s was made so that 16 bit Windows can use some of the 32 bit >> stuff. The "s" in Win32s is for "subset". Win32s is a subset of the 32 bit >> functions of 32 bit versions of Windows. >> >> >I thought WFW 3.11 is supposed to be 32 bit as well, Am I wrong? >>>>> >Later, >-Arn You are wrong. However you were probably confused because WFW DOES have some specific 32 bit code added that significantly enhances disk I/O. These 32 bit enhancements have been "borrowed" from one of the other 32 bit OS developement (Chicago/Win95 I think). WFW is basically an enhanced version of regular Windows 3.1. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From wturber@primenet.com Sat Apr 22 12:09:39 PDT 1995 Article: 5116 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5116 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip002.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave PC 4.0 first look Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:59:32 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip002.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] [nice "first look" snipped] > But don't kid yourself. For >$1000 you buying one floppy and a doggle. And its not quite there as [more snipped] It Stuart and Alan fit LW on a single floppy, that is cause for celebration, not complaint. I'm tired of having to load a half dozen disks for programs that don't seem that complicated. Small is good. Maybe they spent time optimizing code. Big code is often slow code in the Windows world. I'm really surprised it fits on a single floppy. Well done IMHO! _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From wturber@primenet.com Sat Apr 22 12:07:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5117 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5117 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip002.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:02:26 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip002.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article wal@cais.com writes: [snip] >I would like to see Alllen & Stuart form their own company when the current >contract w/ NewTek expires, as I think they are THE current driving force at >NewTek. >Long live Lightwave. >wal@cais.com If NewTek has any smarts, they have a non-compete agreement of some sort. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From wturber@primenet.com Sat Apr 22 12:10:16 PDT 1995 Article: 5118 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5118 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip002.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: PAR and video? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:12:55 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 46 Distribution: inet Message-ID: References: <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <3n8q6e$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip002.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3n8q6e$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) writes: >From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) >Subject: Re: PAR and video? >Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:31:25 GMT >In article <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu>, > Anthony Cingle wrote: >>I have a question I hope someone can answer. I'm in the planning stages of >doing a >>yearbook video for the Penn State Blue Band. Currently I have a PAR PC. I'm > >>seriously contemplating buying a TBC IV. What I want to do is record short >video >>segments (10-20 seconds) to the PAR and then use Lightwave to generate the > >>transitions (page peels, tumbles, etc). What I want to know is how good is >the >>video recorded to the PAR. I know that you have to lower the compression >level, how >>bad is the artificating? I'd really appreciate any responses. Thanks. >> >>Tony >> >In our experience, the PAR is excellent for "people scenes". The only times >we saw unusable artifacting was when we'd have very bright colors up against >other very bright colors and moving. We use the PAR to grab lots of shots of >"talking heads" and other inherently "easy" things to digitize. We love the >PAR and can't wait to see what DPS's new Perception has to offer. >Your project you talked about above is really the type of project the PAR does >best. You'll be able to grab good looking video, use the frames in LW w/o >hassle, and then lay back your "LW edited" video to tape through the PAR. >Brian >bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu My experience with recording with the TBC-IV/PAR is limited, but I believe it will be fine for creating video that will end up on VHS tape. I notice artifacting on the edges of large single color areas like a horizon line and a clear sky. Detail in images tends to hide artifacting. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From vivid@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca Sat Apr 22 12:11:33 PDT 1995 Article: 5119 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5119 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!utgpu!vivid From: vivid@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (S. Wyshynski) Subject: Re: Motion paths for LW. Message-ID: Organization: UTCC Public Access References: <3mkgae$2gq@liberty.liberty.com> <5438.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 04:17:53 GMT Lines: 28 In article <5438.760.uupcb@mercopus.com>, Dan Bloomfield wrote: >-> Hello! I was wondering if someone knew of where I could obtain >-> pre-plotted motion paths for objects. I.E. basic circle/oval type >-> paths and the such. Is there possible an anonymous FTP site I could >-> find something like this at? If so, any suggestions/ideas would be >-> appreciated. >It is ridiculously easy to draw a spline curve in Modeler with the >sketch tool and use the Path to Motion macro to convert it into a motion >path. > >---- >+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | >| 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | >+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ You could also use an ARexx script to plot the points in 3-space with whatever mathematical functions you want, including some physical modelling (gravity etc). Both motion files and scene files are simple ASCII text with numeric lists. I suggest reading some actual scene files in your text editor to "reverse-engineer" them. Jim May The Vivid Group Mandala VR Systems From johnc@MCS.COM Sat Apr 22 12:08:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5120 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5120 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis.cis.uab.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 22 Apr 1995 09:04:26 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 44 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3nb2da$jlv@Mars.mcs.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> <3na8b9$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: > I guess that's kinda what it sounded like, but it's not what I meant. I meant > the hassle of having to obtain your raw footage *twice* before any editing > decisions ahve been made. It's more of a principle thing, I guess. There's > really no reason (other than cost) that a standard for capturing raw video to > a hard disk recorder hasn't been attempted. Everybody has their scheme - > Avid, Media 100, NewTek's VTASC, etc... But all of these (except for the > future Flyer box) still rely heavily on what tape format you can originally > capture to. > As a small "video guy", I might be able to afford the Flyer and the computer > equipment that is necessary to build a nice little NL system. But, BetaSP > stuff is way out of my price range, so I'm limited to either Hi8 or SVHS > quality to start with unless I want to bring a computer setup to a shoot. > Even then it's hard to juggle the controls on the Flyer as opposed to just > letting tape roll. However, a truly portable DDR could greatly increase the > qualtiy of my final output simply because I'm not limited by the quality of my > original "capture" gear (ie video camera and deck). Hell, I could still > output to BetaSP without ever owning or renting any BeatSP gear. All I'd need > is a friend or a service bureau where I could hook up my Flyer to a record > deck and play back the edited piece. I agree. There's a lot to be said for recording direct to disk. It's not hard to find cameras (even low-priced ones) that have optics and electronics in the 700+ line resolution category, but as soon as you go to tape with it, you lose a lot of that resolution. The minute you record that signal to S-VHS or Hi8, you've immediately dropped your resolution to around 400-450 lines of resolution. Even Betacam records far less than what many cameras put out. By going direct-to-disk, you're only limited by the resolution of the hard disk recording/playback encoding scheme, which is better than many tape formats currently in use. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From djn@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:11:36 PDT 1995 Article: 5121 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5121 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: djn@ix.netcom.com (Douglas Nakakihara) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Additional info on PC Toaster/Flyer Date: 22 Apr 1995 14:18:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nb37n$dlk@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-tok1-12.ix.netcom.com I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned the following information. I spoke to NewTek yesterday and found out that the Flyer card in the new PC Toaster/Flyer (PCTFB) is exactly the same card as the Amiga version. The PCTFB contains a built-in TBC and has room for three removable HDs. Now why would an Amiga user want the $3,000 box, sans Flyer? Well apparently the "new" Toaster will do effects a little differently. Some of them will be the same real-time effects. However, some effects, particularly the ones that scale video will be *rendered* using LightWave. Currently there is no Paint program and I forgot to ask about CG. -- //// * * --Doug ~ djn@ix.netcom.com "What a silly bunt..." From johnc@MCS.COM Sat Apr 22 12:09:02 PDT 1995 Article: 5122 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5122 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis.cis.uab.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 22 Apr 1995 09:16:21 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 31 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3nb33l$jrp@Mars.mcs.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3na0id$nnd@Mercury.mcs.com> <3na8ho$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: > This is good news, however. The direct to disk idea is one that is very > predictable. Actually, I was telling a friend not two weeks ago that it > shouldn't be that hard to make a "dockable hard disk recorder" for any > dockable camera. It certainly makes sense. I imagine that at next year's NAB, most all the companies will be showing camera-mounted drive packages. It only makes sense, after all. The point of NL editing is to make the editors job faster and easier. Direct-to-disk recording eliminates a GREAT deal of time. The Ikegami recorder had a really neat feature that would come in handy for an even-oriented videographer, such as a newsman. Let's say you were waiting for the President to come out on the balcony and make a statement. Since you don't know exactly WHEN he's gonna do that, you'd leave your camera running, to be sure and get it. With a direct-to-disk setup, your hard drive would fill up quickly if you just left it running. With the Ikegami setup, you flipped a switch, and it would continuously record over the same couple of tracks on the drive, over and over. When what you wanted to save happened, you flipped the switch back again, and the recorder would then just continue with normal recording. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From thierry@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:08:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5123 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5123 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: thierry@ix.netcom.com (Thierry Humeau) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 22 Apr 1995 16:01:04 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 35 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nb980$h6k@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> <3na8b9$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> <3nb2da$jlv@Mars.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-dc8-26.ix.netcom.com > >I agree. > >There's a lot to be said for recording direct to disk. It's not hard to >find cameras (even low-priced ones) that have optics and electronics in >the 700+ line resolution category, but as soon as you go to tape with it, >you lose a lot of that resolution. The minute you record that signal to >S-VHS or Hi8, you've immediately dropped your resolution to around >400-450 lines of resolution. Even Betacam records far less than what many >cameras put out. > I think the performance of the Newtek employee demoeing the Flyer for Windows at NAB was poor especially when he brough the camera issue. It is true that optics and CCD on prosumer camcorders are OK but you cannot really compare them to broadcast cameras. The 700+ lines of resolutions is of less importance than the ability to handle smear, high contrast shots or low picture noise in dark areas. Also, the claim of the Newtek guy that the VF allows you to shoot on the field in full D2 quality is wrong. I have a Flyer and Beta SP BVW machines in my studio and have access to a Sony D2 deck. I took a close look at at the image quality issue and this is my conclusion. The Video Flyer at its current stage is far from outputing the same quality picture than a $50,000 Sony D2 recorder. It's not quite close to Betacam SP but definelty better than 3/4" or S-VHS. Thierry. -- ************************************************************** Thierry Humeau tel: 301-933-3008 Cameraman/Producer fax: 301-933-2868 Freelance/TV Networks thierry@ix.netcom.com ************************************************************** From edgore@netcom.com Sat Apr 22 12:11:30 PDT 1995 Article: 5124 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5124 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!edgore From: edgore@netcom.com (Edwin Gore) Subject: Where can I get LW (intel) Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:53:19 GMT Lines: 8 Sender: edgore@netcom16.netcom.com If _anyone_ has the names (phone #) of any SF Bay Area dealers, please post or Email them. I'm desperate to get a copy of lightwave PC. Thanks! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! edgore@netcom.com ! Subscribe the Strata Mailing list! ! ! Opinions are mine, ! Email "subscribe strata-list" ! ! unless you want 'em ! to listserv@netcom.com...or don't... ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- From thx1138871@aol.com Sat Apr 22 12:11:40 PDT 1995 Article: 5125 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5125 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: thx1138871@aol.com (THX1138871) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: FS AMIGA PAR+ 1.7 gigs Date: 22 Apr 1995 14:04:14 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 3 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nbgeu$cd3@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: thx1138871@aol.com (THX1138871) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com DPS PAR v 2.5 (AMIGA) +Micropolis 1.7 gigs all for just $1500 obo. THX1138871@aol.com From DonH@cup.portal.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:24 PDT 1995 Article: 5126 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5126 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!DonH From: DonH@cup.portal.com (Don - Hirschfeld) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: I need ToasterArexx.library for SA 3.5 Date: 22 Apr 1995 12:40:06 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 9 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137441@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com I have the stand alone version of Lightwave. I recently received the add on program Visual FX for Lightwave. However, after loading LW and running the program, I get the message "LW isn't running". I was told it needed the file ToasterArexx.library or something like that. Could someone please uuencode this to me? Thanks. Don From johnc@MCS.COM Sun Apr 23 21:29:32 PDT 1995 Article: 5127 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5127 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 22 Apr 1995 15:08:29 -0500 Organization: MicroTech Solutions, Inc. Lines: 25 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nbnnt$p9j@Mercury.mcs.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> <3na8b9$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> <3nb2da$jlv@Mars.mcs.com> <3nb980$h6k@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] Thierry Humeau (thierry@ix.netcom.com) wrote: > Also, the claim of the Newtek guy that the VF allows you to shoot on > the field in full D2 quality is wrong. I have a Flyer and Beta SP BVW > machines in my studio and have access to a Sony D2 deck. I took a > close look at at the image quality issue and this is my conclusion. The > Video Flyer at its current stage is far from outputing the same quality > picture than a $50,000 Sony D2 recorder. It's not quite close to > Betacam SP but definelty better than 3/4" or S-VHS. This is basically what I was getting at, though. I've already seen that I can get better quality by recording direct to the Flyer from a JVC KY-27 camera (750 lines) than I can by recording to S-VHS with the same KY-27 camera, and then digitizing the footage later. By the way, have you tried the Alt/Alt/tilde "Super Standard" recording mode of the Flyer? How does that compare to your BetaSP originals? It looks far better than the normal "Standard" mode... -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From andy@crazybe.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 23 21:29:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5128 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5128 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!pipex!peernews.demon.co.uk!crazybe.demon.co.uk!andy Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave From: andy@crazybe.demon.co.uk (Andrew Barnett) Organization: Black Cat Graphics Lines: 7 X-Newsreader: TIN [AMIGA 1.3 950131BETA PL0] Subject: Gokart Model wanted..... X-Posting-Host: crazybe.demon.co.uk Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:45:00 +0000 Message-ID: <9504222223.AA000nj@crazybe.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk Hi All, As I'm pretty crap at modeler at the mo (getting the LW vids soon though), I'm looking for a model of a 'GoKart', for a small pvt project I'm working on. If there is one on any of the any sites then please tell me so I can get it. Thanks for any help and I just hope that this messages is getting out in the first place. :) -- * ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ .--------------------------. * * . . `; -._ )-;-,_`) | Andrew Barnett | * * * (v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' | 2:254/516.19@fidonet | * _.- _..-_/ / ((.' `-andy@crazybe.demon.co.uk-' * * ((,.-' ((,/...................Black Cat Graphics......... From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5129 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5129 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave 3d has arrived... Message-ID: <5541.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 22 Apr 95 12:06:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n4see$7uf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Lines: 9 -> no documentation on how i.k. with bones work. I believe you simply set a goal object for the bone, the same as you do for objects. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:21 PDT 1995 Article: 5130 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5130 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Local Axis/World Axis Movement?? Message-ID: <5542.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 22 Apr 95 12:31:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n588u$9vs@news.cais.com> Lines: 21 -> Object movement with LW can sometimes be difficult if you are -> moving a rotated, pitched object. My experience has been that the -> object (especially if parented) will want to move according to it's -> local axis. This makes it difficult when you move on the Y axis and -> the box moves left instead of up. Is there now or will there be in -> the future a world axis setting to switch between the two? Here's a workaround I have often used. Find the last position of your child object before you have to start moving it. Use Save Transformed to save it under a different name then load it into layout but leave it unparented. Use a 1 frame dissolve envelope to dissolve out the original and replace it with the transformed object which will be in exactly the same spot but non-parented so that it moves according to world co-ords. This is also handy when you want an object parented for part of a scene but not for the rest of it i.e. a hand carryiny a ball then dropping it and the character walking away. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcpeepers@aol.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5131 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5131 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: mcpeepers@aol.com (MCPEEPERS) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 22 Apr 1995 20:21:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 37 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: mcpeepers@aol.com (MCPEEPERS) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Well, well, well..... And the Lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. The Amiga has just been revived and currently in the intensive care unit. Rest assured, she will be fine and doing well in a couple of months, and at that time.......'To Those Who Left The Amiga', will put their money where their mouth is: (whiney voice) "I had it with the Amiga. I'm going PC!! It's so much faster." "I'm bailing out of a dead company!" "Quick! I gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe and buy one of them there 'Pentiyum' and NG, no, NZ, no, that's not it, NT winduh's thingy's. What? Why am I spending $5000 for a brand new system I never used before to animate a job I need next week? Hell! I just gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe! That's all that counts!" The only smart responses I've seen in reference to leaving the Amiga were those people who were willing to intergrate both worlds, and they were few. Well, after purchasing everyone elses 'bailout' systems to farm like a heartland redneck, I can only refer you to the start of this message. And the lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. And now......let the debate commence. -------------------------------------------------------------- Rotoscotia Unlimited Animation: Returning American animation BACK to America! And re-introducing..........The Amiga! Like a phoenix, she rises with a vengence! -------------------------------------------------------------- From Harv@cup.portal.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5132 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5132 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!Harv From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave questions Date: 22 Apr 1995 17:40:14 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 38 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137461@cup.portal.com> References: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com > >3) How should I get started learning Lightwave? (i.e. any suggestions for >reading books or mags, video tape tutorials, etc...) > >Thanks, >ralph > > In answer to (3)... 1. Start buying and reading Video Toaster User magazine. A glossy monthly. Later, if you want to get heavier into "tips'n'tricks from the experts" you can sub to their LightWave Pro newsletter mag (but it's rather small & expensive... you be the judge if it's what you'll need) 2. Watch the LightWave Essentials tape that comes with LightWave. If you learn from it (and it'd be hard not to), consider buying one or more of the other tapes hosted by Lee Stranahan, published by Desktop Images (they have a two page ad in VTU magazine). Each tape is 90min-2hr long and packed with quite a lot of useful, easy-to-follow information. They're well-produced and incredibly useful for getting yourself up to speed with LightWave's various functions and features. 3. Read this newsgroup and ask questions and don't be intimidated into thinking your questions are "stupid." No one was born knowing this stuff. 4. Subscribe to and read the LightWave mailing list. (Subbing details are posted here regularly by its listkeeper). 5. If at all possible as an adjunct to (2) above, apprentice yourself to someone who knows LightWave, sit next to him, watch what he does and ask a lot of questions. Harv harv@cup.portal.com From thierry@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:39 PDT 1995 Article: 5133 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5133 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: thierry@ix.netcom.com (Thierry Humeau) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 23 Apr 1995 00:58:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 50 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nc8o4$n6@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3n91r6$omd@horus.infinet.com> <3na8b9$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> <3nb2da$jlv@Mars.mcs.com> <3nb980$h6k@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <3nbnnt$p9j@Mercury.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-dc8-17.ix.netcom.com In <3nbnnt$p9j@Mercury.mcs.com> johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) writes: > >By the way, have you tried the Alt/Alt/tilde "Super Standard" recording >mode of the Flyer? In a previous fax, I mentioned to Newtek that the new *standard and *extended modeaccessible though the Alt-Alt-~ keyboard combination worked. Well, they worked until you turn off the system and reboot it later. Then, when you try playing back certain clips digitized at these new resolution settings, they flicker really bad and show some chroma inversion. This phenomena is very similar to what occured with LW animation recorded on the Flyer drives with .94 software. Some clips playback fine but some other flicker and show some color inversion. This only happen after rebooting the Flyer. >How does that compare to your BetaSP originals? It >looks far better than the normal "Standard" mode... The *Standard mode looks really great but still, I can definetly see the difference vs. Beta SP. The most visible difference is the grain added by VTASC compression with in some ways looks a kind of nice. Also, the picture look a little sharper and loose some of the Beta SP softness. The really nice thing with the "*Standard" mode is that it takes care of all the problematic shots that are hard to digitize using the non-* modes but the storage requirements increase dramatically, about 3.5 to 4 min/Gig. I am speaking here about the flicker and softening artifacts appearing on digitized shots with high luminance values and a lot of contrasted fine detail. This is due according to Newtek to the inability for VTASC the way it is set now to compress all the information and still stay within the 3.75 MB/s data rate that's allowed for the "standard" compression mode. The new "*Standard" mode allow the data rate to go up to 4MB/sec. and works if your drives can handle it. Now, I still have this problem on some shots that seem to digitize and playback fine using the *Standard mode but get screwd up after rebooting the system and trying to play them back again. As I mentioned before, I can observe the same problem that I had with LW animation under .94. I don't think this is related to the drives and I suspect here some software bugs.... Thierry. -- ************************************************************** Thierry Humeau tel: 301-933-3008 Cameraman/Producer fax: 301-933-2868 Freelance/TV Networks thierry@ix.netcom.com ************************************************************** From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5134 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5134 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: very dissapointed :( Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:17:18 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3ncnsu$8qf@news.xmission.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jeff Jasper (jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : I was going to order Lightwave 4.0 but when I called they told me they do not : offer student specials. I was taken by surprise. This is the first I have ever : heard of an animation company not offering student discounts. I was very upset : since I think Lightwave will be the best animation program to ever hit the PC. : Does anyone know if they are offering student specials in the future? I had to : order 3D Studio because I am on a deadline, but I would love to buy Lightwave : if I can get it for aroung $500. : Jeff The current Amiga version sells for under $500. You can upgrade to 4.0 for a reasonable fee. -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5135 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5135 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Elastic Reality's HIIP? Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:20:17 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3nco2h$8qf@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Does Elastic Reality's HIIP code come with the Amiga version? AND Are the Syndesis Interchange Plug-Ins the same version as in previous LightWave releases? If they are updates, do they run on the Amiga version? -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From jlgerber@waynesworld.ucsd.edu Sun Apr 23 21:31:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5136 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5136 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!network.ucsd.edu!waynesworld.ucsd.edu!jlgerber From: jlgerber@waynesworld.ucsd.edu (Jonathan Gerber) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: rendering errors Date: 23 Apr 1995 08:01:02 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3nd1fu$rl4@network.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: waynesworld.ucsd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] so I'm rendering this kithcen scen under 3.5 when i notice strange errors in the ray traced shadows on my blinds. The rendered fine under 3.1 but, wouldnt you know it, under 3.5 they look like a black and white pointilist nightmare. Whats going on; anybody know? this is only happening on the blinds. they are rounded and have a diffuse level of 80%. other than that, they're normal. hmmmmm jonathan gerber ucsdtv From Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM Sun Apr 23 21:30:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5137 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5137 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news1.oakland.edu!synthcom.com!agora!nesbbx!Thealy Subject: Re: Separate Windows versions? References: Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) From: Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM (Thomas Healy) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 22:24:48 PST Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System Lines: 28 In , jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) writes: > > Nope. NewTek's brochures,etc all say for Windows, Windows NT, Etc. etc. > > NT is just the 'preferred' OS. > > JG Thanks for the Information, I'm just about to enter the PC world for the first time, so I'm trying to get all the facts first :) So NT will run LW quicker (Renders) that is why it is the prefered? BTW: I love your collum in VTU! Keep up the good work, Thomas \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Address: ** LIVE CONCERTS FOR TRADE ** Thealy@nesbbx.rain.com REM, U2, PEARL JAM, THE DOORS + MANY MORE send e-mail if interested, your list gets mine ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From wturber@primenet.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:50 PDT 1995 Article: 5138 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5138 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip182.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 06:31:06 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip182.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mcpeepers@aol.com (MCPEEPERS) writes: >From: mcpeepers@aol.com (MCPEEPERS) >Subject: The Return of the Amiga! >Date: 22 Apr 1995 20:21:06 -0400 >Well, well, well..... >And the Lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. >The Amiga has just been revived and currently in the intensive care unit. >Rest assured, she will be fine and doing well in a couple of months, [childish nya-nyas snipped] >And re-introducing..........The Amiga! Like a phoenix, she rises with a >vengence! >-------------------------------------------------------------- Grow up. There are bunches of people here who would LOVE to see the Amiga come back. Most of us do occasional reality checks though. There are excellent reasons to move to the PC platform. Sad fact for many, but fact nonetheless. The Amiga wasn't exactly taking the world by storm when they bellied up. NewTek was one of the major forces that kept the Amiga going and they just went thru a tough year themselves. In a world where technology changes almost daily, a one year absence from the market is a major blow. I, however, hope you get to say "Told ya so!" a year from now. Problem is - that's only going to happen in your dreams. I don't think single-framing animations will be the rage in '96 either. But I could be wrong. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From ladic@cs.ubc.ca Sun Apr 23 21:30:24 PDT 1995 Article: 5139 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5139 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!hookup!news.Direct.CA!scipio.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!UBC!ladic From: ladic@cs.ubc.ca (Lance Ladic) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: RE: Student discounts, WAS: very disappointed Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 18:00:41 PST Organization: University of British Columbia, Canada Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladic.home.cs.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Jasper) writes: >From: jasper.7@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Jasper) >Subject: very dissapointed :( >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 02:28:37 GMT >I was going to order Lightwave 4.0 but when I called they told me they do not >offer student specials. I was taken by surprise. This is the first I have ever >heard of an animation company not offering student discounts. I was very upset >since I think Lightwave will be the best animation program to ever hit the PC. >Does anyone know if they are offering student specials in the future? I had to >order 3D Studio because I am on a deadline, but I would love to buy Lightwave >if I can get it for aroung $500. This does seem quite unfortunate. I am also a student, and like you, am planning to buy some animation software for my PC in the very near future. All I can say is that with the high prices for *decent* animation/graphics software on the market today, price discounts for struggling students are a must! If NewTek has "just said NO!" to sutdent discounts, it might be wise to wait for discounts through mail order. If anyone who reads this newsgroup finds a discount through mail-order, please post the relevant info. here! -- even a small discount is better than no discount at all! --Lance. ladic@cs.ubc.ca From AVID@cup.portal.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5140 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5140 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!AVID From: AVID@cup.portal.com (Jim C Plant) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LightWave Animation Contest Date: 23 Apr 1995 08:20:14 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 28 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <137472@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com TO ALL: We are in the process of launching a animation contest in to promote the prowess of LightWave 3D and showcase the talents of LightWave 3D users around the world. The first advertisements for the contest will appear in the July issue of Video Toaster User. Because of long lead times, we have about a week to finalize the details of the contest before we run into production deadlines for completing the contest ads. In the five years of the company's existence we've only run one contest, so we don't have a lot of experience in this area. We would sure appreciate your comments on what you think comprises a good contest. Here are some of the details we are currently wrestling with: 1. Animation Categories: how many and what type? 2. Prizes: we've had a lot of our advertisers offer to donate their products as prizes. Everything from animation recorders to 3D digitizers to all kinds of software. How should we distribute these prizes? What animation categories should get the best prizes? 3. Entry formats: what tape formats should we accept for entries? 4. Entry fees: should we have them? if yes, then how much? Any and all comments on these contest details, or any others, would be greatly appreciated. Jim Plant Video Toaster User Magazine From peter@tlink.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 23 21:31:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5141 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5141 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!bt!btnet!peernews.demon.co.uk!news2.demon.co.uk!tlink.demon.co.uk!TRP From: peter@tlink.demon.co.uk (Peter Robertson) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Need help to find LW mags in US Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:32:00 +0100 Organization: Technical Link Ltd Lines: 14 Sender: news@news2.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <34812.7707986111@tlink.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: peter@tlink.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: distort.demon.co.uk X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tlink.demon.co.uk X-Offline-Mail/NewsReader: Tetrix Reader Plug - Unregistered - V 1.1.0 I am a LW user in the UK feeling starved of news/tips/add-ons etc etc. Could somebody let me have the name/address/tel no of the publishers of Lightwave Pro and any other US LW mags you would recommend so that I can subscribe to them. Many thanks Peter Robertson Technical Link From grasser@enet.net Sun Apr 23 21:31:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5142 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5142 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!in1.uu.net!maple.enet.net!usenet From: grasser@enet.net (grasser) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: looking for Lightwave system integrators Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:03:02 GMT Organization: . Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3ne4om$rpa@maple.enet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip34.enet.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.5 sorry for the intrusion BUT i'm starting to sell to flyer & cube users & would like someone to explain them to me / i think that they're DEC alpha / NT dealers ?? / if you're a Lightwave / flyer / cube dealer please give me a call or email me your # thanks SCSI peripherals / WHOLESALE grasser@enet.net http://cybermart.com/scuzzy/prices.html Voice 310-546-3033 Fax 310-546-2013 ___ __.--/) .-~~ ~~>>>>>>>> .-. 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(((__.' ```-' * chocolate isN't good for dogs From Jeric@cup.portal.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5143 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5143 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!Jeric From: Jeric@cup.portal.com (J Eric Chard) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave PC 4.0 first look Date: 23 Apr 1995 12:20:06 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 27 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137484@cup.portal.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com Matthew Sorrels writes: > If you resize the window durring a preview playback it crashes. > Windows don't repaint when palette games causes it to change > colors. > Since it uses no windows controls and/or standards some > things you expect from a windows app aren't there: Welcome to the world of beta-testing. :^/ >Mathew Sorrels | And thats when I decided to microwave the Diet Coke >mdmmds@netcom.com | Std. Disclaimers Apply. YMMV. Member FDIC. > Thanks for the valuable posting. I'm sure this will be of help to many. (Not me--I've been struggling with it for four months.....you wouldn't BELIEVE how slow TwinExpress is.....) **************************************************************************** * (OOOOO) Jeric@cup.portal.com | Synergy Graphix & Animation * * (OOOOOOO) Welcome to Seattle! | Film and Video Productions * * /////// Have a latte'! |Technical Subjects Our Specialty! * * /////// Or else! | * * **************************************************************************** From daga1@aol.com Sun Apr 23 21:32:06 PDT 1995 Article: 5144 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5144 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: daga1@aol.com (Daga1) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Need Recommendation... Date: 23 Apr 1995 15:50:20 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 18 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3neb1s$2r2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: daga1@aol.com (Daga1) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com i, I'm very new to this newsgroup, and I could use some help. After searching far and wide, and listening to the advice of many cg folks in various newsgroups, I am coming to the conclusion that my new PC-based cg setup should be based around Lightwave. What I am looking for are some recommendations regarding the various hw components that I will need for a pantium-based system. I am a very familiar with Mac setups, but I will need to go PC this time. Have very little experience with Windows, etc. >From what I have heard, LW is phenomenal, head and shoulders above the rest. But I have also heard that the new sw will cost about $700 (is this correct?) and that a board will be required -- but I don't know what this board is -- can someone tell me? It supposedly costs $3000. Sorry if I sound confused, but I figure this is the best place to ask. Please feel free to suggest any essential hw components that you think make sense, and please help me figure out what this board is. Thanks very much, Andy From fwtep@ix.netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:01 PDT 1995 Article: 5145 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5145 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: fwtep@ix.netcom.com (Fred Tepper) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 23 Apr 1995 20:07:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 70 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nec17$hdd@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pas13-15.ix.netcom.com In <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mcpeepers@aol.com (MCPEEPERS) writes: >Well, well, well..... >And the Lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. > >The Amiga has just been revived and currently in the intensive care unit. Rest assured, she will be fine and doing well in a couple of months, and at that time.......'To Those Who Left The Amiga', will put their money where their mouth is: >(whiney voice) >"I had it with the Amiga. I'm going PC!! It's so much faster." >"I'm bailing out of a dead company!" >"Quick! I gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe and buy one of them there >'Pentiyum' and NG, no, NZ, no, that's not it, NT winduh's thingy's. >Why am I spending $5000 for a brand new system I never used before to >animate a job I need next week? Hell! I just gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe! >That's all that counts!" >Well, after purchasing everyone elses 'bailout' systems to farm like a >heartland redneck, I can only refer you to the start of this message. >And now......let the debate commence. >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Rotoscotia Unlimited Animation: >Returning American animation BACK to America! >And re-introducing..........The Amiga! Like a phoenix, she rises with a vengence! >-------------------------------------------------------------- And the Fred said: Mark my words, even IF they start making Amigas again (which would be great since me winning $40 million in the lottery is a lot lower down on the odds list) they will NOT be the Amigas you are all used to. If they go to RISC processors they will have to re-write the much loved Amiga OS, and everything you are running now will be incompatible (except MAYBE at ridiculously slow emulation speed--remember all the trouble Apple had?). Also, it would be a long time before you would see anything available--like over a year at least. By that time, even more of the Windows issues will have been settled and the Intel chips will have more than doubled in speed (the P6 will be out in early fall). Also by that time, a loaded Pentium 100 will cost around $2000-- how much will one of those *new* Amigas cost loaded, $6000 maybe? (After all, how much was a loaded 4000 including a 24 bit card and CR ROM? I say calling it a 4000 was quite apt.) So give it a rest already. I don't see any of the PC users posting that Amiga users are whiney fools, so why must you? You know what it is? You are all scared to death that you are being left behind. Well, stick with the Amiga and you surely will be. "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life." By the way don't talk about the Amiga rising like Phoenix until you can go into a store and buy one. Until then, it's still more like Dr. Franklenstein looking for more dead body parts. Hugs and kisses, -=Fred=- PS: Two companies that I know of (Gateway and Dell) are offering loaded Pentuim 120 systems (including quad speed CD-Rom drives--with a 3 disk changer on the Gateway, over a gig drive, modem, sound card, 64bit graphics--128 bit on the Dell, 17 inch monitor, etc.) for $4299. How much is a stipped Amiga 4000 again? From stranahan@aol.com Sun Apr 23 21:30:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5146 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5146 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 23 Apr 1995 16:32:34 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 41 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nedh2$3fd@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Well, well, well..... And the Lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. The Amiga has just been revived and currently in the intensive care unit. Rest assured, she will be fine and doing well in a couple of months, and at that time.......'To Those Who Left The Amiga', will put their money where their mouth is: (whiney voice) "I had it with the Amiga. I'm going PC!! It's so much faster." "I'm bailing out of a dead company!" "Quick! I gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe and buy one of them there 'Pentiyum' and NG, no, NZ, no, that's not it, NT winduh's thingy's. What? Why am I spending $5000 for a brand new system I never used before to animate a job I need next week? Hell! I just gotta keep up with Joe Shmoe! That's all that counts!" The only smart responses I've seen in reference to leaving the Amiga were those people who were willing to intergrate both worlds, and they were few. Well, after purchasing everyone elses 'bailout' systems to farm like a heartland redneck, I can only refer you to the start of this message. And the lord said, 'Oh ye with such little faith'. And now......let the debate commence. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No debate - you spoke like a true religious zealot, which is very appropriate. Because, you're just so WRONG... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sun Apr 23 21:29:55 PDT 1995 Article: 5147 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5147 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:26:52 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Walter (Jay) Turberville (wturber@primenet.com) wrote: : Grow up. There are bunches of people here who would LOVE to see the Amiga : come back. Most of us do occasional reality checks though. There are : excellent reasons to move to the PC platform. Sad fact for many, but fact : nonetheless. The Amiga wasn't exactly taking the world by storm when they : bellied up. NewTek was one of the major forces that kept the Amiga going and NewTek and the Toaster did help the Amiga, but they were a small part of the Amiga user base. There were are still by far many more Amiga's that have never seen a Toaster or LightWave than were used for such purposes. : they just went thru a tough year themselves. In a world where technology : changes almost daily, a one year absence from the market is a major blow. I, : however, hope you get to say "Told ya so!" a year from now. Problem is - : that's only going to happen in your dreams. I don't think single-framing : animations will be the rage in '96 either. But I could be wrong. Hardly an accurate comparison. In fact, single frame recording in many instances, yeilds highr quality than any of the non-linear solutions. I know a couple of Beta Bays that use a PAR to preview, and then single frame out to digital Beta SP or even D1. ESCOM has made some very positive statements about their vision. We will all have to just wait and see. -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From erikr@algonet.se Sun Apr 23 21:32:12 PDT 1995 Article: 5148 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5148 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!newsfeed.tip.net!news.algonet.se!news.algonet.se!not-for-mail From: erikr@algonet.se (Erik Rosman) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Why LightWave? Date: 23 Apr 1995 23:16:42 +0200 Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3neg3q$tl@aristotle.algonet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: aristotle.algonet.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] What makes LightWave 3D better than 3D Studio? Advantages and Disadvantages. Could someone experienced please make a list? What does LightWave have that 3D Studio doesn't? and vice versa. From jgross@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5149 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5149 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Separate Windows versions? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:36:37 GMT Lines: 14 Sender: jgross@netcom5.netcom.com : Thanks for the Information, I'm just about to enter the PC world for the : first time, so I'm trying to get all the facts first :) So NT will run LW : quicker (Renders) that is why it is the prefered? That, plus the fact that LightWave, in conjuction with a good graphics card will be speeded up in the redraws and wireframe preview generations. Plus, since LightWave is in a window, you can adjust its size to your liking. NT is also damn near bulletproof in its memory allocations and it's nice to just "End a Task" for any programs that happen to crash. No rebooting required! JG From jgross@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:23 PDT 1995 Article: 5150 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5150 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: rendering errors Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3nd1fu$rl4@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:15 GMT Lines: 8 Sender: jgross@netcom5.netcom.com Jonathan Gerber (jlgerber@waynesworld.ucsd.edu) wrote: : so I'm rendering this kithcen scen under 3.5 when i notice strange errors in the ray traced shadows on my blinds. The rendered fine under 3.1 but, wouldnt you know it, under 3.5 they look like a black and white pointilist nightmare. Whats going on; a nybody know? this is only happening on the blinds. they are rounded and have a diffuse level of 80%. other than that, they're normal. Turn off Double Sided. It's a bug. JG From jgross@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5151 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5151 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Need help to find LW mags in US Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <34812.7707986111@tlink.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:48:20 GMT Lines: 15 Sender: jgross@netcom5.netcom.com : I am a LW user in the UK feeling starved of news/tips/add-ons etc etc. : Could somebody let me have the name/address/tel no of the publishers of : Lightwave Pro and any other US LW mags you would recommend so that I can : subscribe to them. Avid Media Group 273 North Mathilda Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-774-6770 800-322-3843 John Gross Editor, LightWavePRO From jgross@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:32:09 PDT 1995 Article: 5152 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5152 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Need Recommendation... Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3neb1s$2r2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:54:08 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: jgross@netcom5.netcom.com Daga1 (daga1@aol.com) wrote: : i, I'm very new to this newsgroup, and I could use some help. : >SNIP< : From what I have heard, LW is phenomenal, head and shoulders above the : rest. But I have also heard that the new sw will cost about $700 (is this : correct?) and that a board will be required -- but I don't know what this : board is -- can someone tell me? It supposedly costs $3000. Sorry if I : sound confused, but I figure this is the best place to ask. Please feel : free to suggest any essential hw components that you think make sense, and : please help me figure out what this board is. This board is just a graphics Display card like a Diamond Stealth or a Number Nine, etc. When you buy a PC, one will usually be included, you just have to decide which one is. Any good, name brand graphics board will work (from US300.00 or so up). If you are going to run LightWave under Windows NT (Preferred, but not required), make sure that the graphics board has an NT driver. JG From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5153 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5153 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Which Lightwave to use with Windows 95? Message-ID: <5577.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 23 Apr 95 17:46:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n6ke9$h2j@news.ais.net> Lines: 8 -> I thought WFW 3.11 is supposed to be 32 bit as well, Am I wrong? Yes. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgross@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:32:15 PDT 1995 Article: 5154 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5154 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: LightWave content to PC Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 00:55:36 GMT Lines: 7 Sender: jgross@netcom20.netcom.com Sorry if this wastes LightWave bandwidth... Does anybody have a mountlist file for Amiga OS 3.1 to enable a bernoulli 150 or 230 PC formatted disk to be read on an Amiga? (used to transfer LW content to a PC) JG From kdthomas@netcom.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:35 PDT 1995 Article: 5155 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5155 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!kdthomas From: kdthomas@netcom.com (Kim Thomas) Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <137472@cup.portal.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 01:09:37 GMT Lines: 43 Sender: kdthomas@netcom9.netcom.com Jim C Plant (AVID@cup.portal.com) wrote: (stuff about contest deleted) : 1. Animation Categories: how many and what type? I can only think of two - commercial and non-commercial. Animations that someone paid for shouldn't compete with ones created by someone working on their own. : 2. Prizes: we've had a lot of our advertisers offer to donate their : products as prizes. Everything from animation recorders to 3D : digitizers to all kinds of software. How should we distribute these : prizes? What animation categories should get the best prizes It's kind of hard to help you with this one without knowing what the prizes are, but I'd try to make the prizes for each placing (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) in each catagory roughly the same. : 3. Entry formats: what tape formats should we accept for entries? This depends on what the animations in the contest are going to be used for. Is some sort of tape compilation of the winners going to be made? You'll need a better tape format for that, but probably shouldn't require anything better than VHS to enter the contest (winners could always re-submit their works on better tape formats later). : 4. Entry fees: should we have them? if yes, then how much? NO. : Any and all comments on these contest details, or any others, : would be greatly appreciated. : Jim Plant : Video Toaster User Magazine I'm looking forward to this myself. It sounds like it would be worth entering. -- Dave Thomas Moving Pixels "I haven't actually read your script, but I have some questions about it" - Actual client quote kdthomas@netcom.com From DrGandalf@cup.portal.com Sun Apr 23 21:31:32 PDT 1995 Article: 5156 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5156 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!DrGandalf From: DrGandalf@cup.portal.com (Eric J Fleischer) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:00:07 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 83 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <137488@cup.portal.com> References: <137472@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com >We are in the process of launching a animation contest in to >promote the prowess of LightWave 3D and showcase the talents of >LightWave 3D users around the world. >... >We would sure appreciate your comments on what you think comprises a good >contest. Here are some of the details we are currently wrestling with: Having entered (and won) a few of these contests, I think I'm in a good position to tell you how at least one of the people who enters these things feels. :) >1. Animation Categories: how many and what type? Four or five should be good. Each should have a first, second and third place, and possibly honorable mentions. How about: -Technical Excellence -Best Storytelling -Most Flashy/Glitzy/Best Special Effects -Best Shows off the Abilities of Lightwave >2. Prizes: we've had a lot of our advertisers offer to donate their >products as prizes. Everything from animation recorders to 3D >digitizers to all kinds of software. How should we distribute these >prizes? What animation categories should get the best prizes? For the last contest I entered, there were only three prizewinners. Each of the winners got a "prize package" of a large assortment of hardware and software items. I took second place, and got about 14 different items. Only about half of them had anything to do with what was listed in the magazine, because many of the advertisers reneged on their promises to provide prizes. In addition, it took over 1 year from the closing date of the contest until I received the last of the prizes . Much of the software was already one or two versions outdated by the time I got it. I also know that the other prizewinners had similar problems. It takes much of the excitement and joy out of winning. In a related problem, it took over 5 months from the closing of that contest until the judging was completed, which seems a bit excessive to me. That all said, my ideas about prizes and judging (in no particular order): -Have the judging finished within two months or so of the closing at the longest. -Make sure you have the prizes in hand so they can actually be awarded quickly after the judging is complete. Technology moves so fast that if you wait months-years, the prizes will be outdated before they are awarded. -I would give the first place winner in each category one really nice prize, and maybe one or two more lesser prizes. Then similarly the next four nicest prizes to the second placers, with maybe one additional small prize. And so on. If you have a surplus of small prizes, rather than award a big stack of prizes to one person, spread them around to "honorable mention" winners. You'll have lots of happy people that way. If you have one really fantastic prize, you might want to add a "Best in Show". >3. Entry formats: what tape formats should we accept for entries? I assume you plan to make a compilation tape of the animations (if not, you should). If so, I would have the submissions on the best format the animator can submit. You should definitely take BetaCamSP and M-II. Hi-8 and S-VHS are pretty good, and are the best formats some can afford. I would actively DIScourage plain VHS if you are making a compilation, since by the time it gets through editing to the final tape, it looks so poor. >4. Entry fees: should we have them? if yes, then how much? No way. >Any and all comments on these contest details, or any others, >would be greatly appreciated. You also need to determine how many entries each person can submit, if there is a length limit for each entry, and if you want to have different categories for pro animators and hobbyists. - Eric J Fleischer,MD - Dr Gandalf DrGandalf@cup.portal.com From mhr@aber.ac.uk Tue Apr 25 21:38:12 PDT 1995 Article: 5157 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5157 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!gdt!aber!mhr From: mhr@aber.ac.uk (Mike) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave 4.0 in the UK Date: 24 Apr 1995 09:02:18 GMT Organization: Prifysgol Cymru Aberystwyth University of Wales Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nfpeq$1l4@fileserv.aber.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: andromedabb.aber.ac.uk X-Disclaimer: Warning - Sender not verifiable Dear All. As a relatively new user of LW (and being stuck in the UK) I haven't been through the upgrade before so apologies for some simple questions : Will upgrades for registered users be handled solely through NewTek, or will the individual distributors in each country be responsible ? Has a UK upgrade price been established ? And will the PAL version of LW 4.0 be available at the same time ? Mike. -- Mike Richards - BOOST / SCORE Project /@\ \|/ mhr@aber.ac.uk - email `-\ \ ______ - 0 - +44 (0)1970 622443 - voice \ \/ ` / \ /|\ _ or : c/o Dept. Computer Science, UW, Penglais, \_i / \ |\____// ABERYSTWYTH, Dyfed. SY23 3DB. UK. | |==| |=----/ Why not drop me a line ...? ------------------------hn/--hn/----------- From wturber@primenet.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5158 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5158 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip003.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 04:39:13 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip003.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) writes: >From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) >Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! >Date: 23 Apr 1995 21:26:52 GMT >Walter (Jay) Turberville (wturber@primenet.com) wrote: >: they just went thru a tough year themselves. In a world where technology >: changes almost daily, a one year absence from the market is a major blow. I, >: however, hope you get to say "Told ya so!" a year from now. Problem is - >: that's only going to happen in your dreams. I don't think single-framing >: animations will be the rage in '96 either. But I could be wrong. >Hardly an accurate comparison. In fact, single frame recording in many >instances, yeilds highr quality than any of the non-linear solutions. I >know a couple of Beta Bays that use a PAR to preview, and then single >frame out to digital Beta SP or even D1. >ESCOM has made some very positive statements about their vision. We will >all have to just wait and see. My point was not that single framing is dead, but that the trend is away from it. I don't expect it to be the rage next year any more than I expect the Amiga to be revived in anything like full glory. Few non-linear systems can beat Beta SP right now. But they are getting better. How close will the Perception be (it is part of the trend)? The point of the comparison was that there are fairly predictable trends in both cases. I did not say that single framing was useless or even a poor way to go to tape. I also did not say that Amigas were useless or necessarily poor choices as computers. I was merely saying that there is a predictable trend away from each. I read the posts as well. ESCOM may be a great company with great vision. But face it. They have great problems to overcome. I was sincere when I said that I'd love the original poster to be able to legitimately say "I told you so." I just don't think it is a reasonable expectation. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM Tue Apr 25 21:38:04 PDT 1995 Article: 5159 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5159 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!agora!nesbbx!Thealy Subject: Re: Lightwave questions References: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 1.06l (February 20, 1995) From: Thealy@nesbbx.rain.COM (Thomas Healy) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 00:45:25 PST Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System Lines: 59 In <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids>, ren_hoek@ids.net writes: > I have several questions about Lightwave, and I would appreciate any >answers: I'll try :) > > 1) Amiga vs. PC Lightwave- Which is better. Many people have told me that >the > PC version can't possibly touch the Amiga one, but I have recently read an > article in one of the PC mags that states just the opposite. > As of now...Speed wise, the PC is faster than a stock Amiga. I have not seen LW 4.0 on the PC yet but it is my understanding that they should be very close to eachother as far as the actual program. > 2) Is the NT version out yet? If so, how is it? If not, when will it be out? > I believe it is shipping now...check the list for better info. > 3) How should I get started learning Lightwave? (i.e. any suggestions for > reading books or mags, video tape tutorials, etc...) > Well Number one, the LW manual is pretty darn good to read & learn from, but you can't beat the help of Lee Stranahan's video series on LW. There should be a multi-platform video series for 4.0 real soon. The company name is Desktop Images (I think). Also there is a book out called Exploring LW 3D, I have not seen this yet (Anyone got this yet???) but from the adverts, this looks to be a good source of info. > Thanks, > ralph > > Glad to help, this group is also a good source if you get stuck! Thomas \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Address: ** LIVE CONCERTS FOR TRADE ** Thealy@nesbbx.rain.com REM, U2, PEARL JAM, THE DOORS + MANY MORE send e-mail if interested, your list gets mine ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From u6578092@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es Tue Apr 25 21:38:20 PDT 1995 Article: 5160 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5160 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.rediris.es!opalo.etsiig.uniovi.es!soneto!u6578092 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Amiga LightWave Instructions Message-ID: <1995Apr24.125557.2855@opalo> From: u6578092@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es (LAUDRUP (BNR)) Date: 24 Apr 95 12:55:56 +0100 Nntp-Posting-Host: soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 32 Helo I'm looking for instructions of Amiga LightWave(I prefer V3.5). Have you got them in a file? Can you send me the file? In other case, where can I find them? .... Where do we go from? Where we do go to? .... Please, send the answers to my e-mail adress. Thanks. _____ ____ __________ __________ |____\|__| |________| |________| ___________________________________ __________ __________ ____ |LAUDRUP | | | | | | | ____ | BLADE NET-RUNNER (BNR) | | |\ |*| +-----+* | |* |__| | | | |*\ |*| +-----+ | |* | u6578092@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es| |__|* \__|*|________|* |__|* |_________________________________| **** *** ********** **** _________ ____ ____ _____ ____ _____ ____ __________ _________ \________\ |__| |__| |____\|__| |____\|__| |________| \________\ _________ ____ ____ __________ __________ __________ _________ | / | | | | | | | | | | | / | __ \*| |* | |*| |\ |*| |\ |*| +-----+* | __ \* | | \ |*| -- |*| |*\ |*| |*\ |*| +-----+ | | \ |* |__| |__|* \______/* |__|* \__|*|__|* \__|*|________|* |__| |__|* *** **** ******* **** *** **** *** ********** *** **** From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5161 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5161 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 24 Apr 1995 15:44:41 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Walter (Jay) Turberville (wturber@primenet.com) wrote: : My point was not that single framing is dead, but that the trend is away from : it. I don't expect it to be the rage next year any more than I expect the : Amiga to be revived in anything like full glory. Few non-linear systems can : beat Beta SP right now. But they are getting better. How close will the : Perception be (it is part of the trend)? The point of the comparison was that : there are fairly predictable trends in both cases. I did not say that single : framing was useless or even a poor way to go to tape. I also did not say that : Amigas were useless or necessarily poor choices as computers. I was merely : saying that there is a predictable trend away from each. Good point. I did misunderstand a bit what you said. I have dabbled enough in the stock market to know that I'm not very good at predicting trends, even when they seem painfully obvious. There has never been a trend towards the Amiga. It always has and (trend prediction coming :) ) probably always will be a very narrow niche market. : I read the posts as well. ESCOM may be a great company with great vision. : But face it. They have great problems to overcome. I was sincere when I said : that I'd love the original poster to be able to legitimately say "I told you : so." I just don't think it is a reasonable expectation. I don't know... I just don't know what is or isn't a reasonable expectation anymore. Certainly it is a bit premature to be holding a return of the Amiga party.... -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From wturber@primenet.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:58 PDT 1995 Article: 5162 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5162 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip044.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Why LightWave? Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:11:47 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <3neg3q$tl@aristotle.algonet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip044.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3neg3q$tl@aristotle.algonet.se> erikr@algonet.se (Erik Rosman) writes: >From: erikr@algonet.se (Erik Rosman) >Subject: Why LightWave? >Date: 23 Apr 1995 23:16:42 +0200 >What makes LightWave 3D better than 3D Studio? >Advantages and Disadvantages. Could someone experienced please make a list? >What does LightWave have that 3D Studio doesn't? and vice versa. Runs on an Amiga (as well as NT). Actually Raytraces! Lower sticker price. Better name. Surprisingly capable without plugins.(Not based on my knowledge or experience - pure hearsay that 3DS can't do much without plug-ins). Metaform, MetaForm, Metaform. Has cool LightWave Pro Magazine written by cool writers that give cool tips. I heard that owls like it (even when they aren't what they seem). LightWave programmers (OK - programmer) actually posts in LightWave usenet group. Its all done with them LASERS!!! (<--- Actual fib.) _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From vector@panix.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5163 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5163 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail From: vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Best Monitors 19" to 21"? Date: 24 Apr 1995 12:14:35 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hiya, I'm wondering what people are using as monitors in this size range. I'm using the Number 9 GXE card that came with my Aspen Alpha, so I want a monitor that does at least 1280x1024. I've looked at the NEC XP21 (pricey, but nice.), Sony's 21" (it's okay, I think they really need to work on their voltage regulation...) Any opinions on IDEK, Mag Innovision, Viewsonic etc? Thanks! o---------------------------o------------------------o------------------------o | Charles Lee (IRC:VVisions)|:. \\// \\// .:| LightWave 3D Animation | | The Supreme Martyr |::. \/ector \/isions .::| - 212-684-5888 - | o------------o--------------^------------------------^----------o-------------o | Homepage: http://www.rose.brandeis.edu/users/lee | o---------------------/\/-|-\/\--------------------o From johnmark@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:31 PDT 1995 Article: 5164 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5164 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: johnmark@ix.netcom.com (John Roquemore) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Best Monitors 19" to 21"? Date: 24 Apr 1995 17:07:32 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nglsk$h3e@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-bos3-14.ix.netcom.com In <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) writes: > >Hiya, > >I'm wondering what people are using as monitors in this size range. >I'm using the Number 9 GXE card that came with my Aspen Alpha, so I >want a monitor that does at least 1280x1024. > >I've looked at the NEC XP21 (pricey, but nice.), Sony's 21" (it's >okay, I think they really need to work on their voltage regulation...) > >Any opinions on IDEK, Mag Innovision, Viewsonic etc? > >Thanks! > I have a nec 4FG and I will be buying Xp21 very soon, I love the monitor, nice and clear and good colors. I would not buy anything else. Just my opinion! Later John Mark Roquemore net: johnmark@ix.netcom.com From cevanim@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5165 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5165 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Date: 24 Apr 1995 12:38:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3ngk5g$i83@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <137488@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com -Technical Excellence -Best Storytelling -Most Flashy/Glitzy/Best Special Effects -Best Shows off the Abilities of Lightwave How about: CORPORATE FLYING LOGO HOLLYWOOD PICTURE TV COMMERCIAL & etc. Base the areas on real world work areas. Ed CEVAnim@aol.com From leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5166 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5166 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!marbls.enet.dec.com!leimberger From: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Realistic wheel motion Date: 24 Apr 1995 16:42:23 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ngkdf$gj1@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> References: <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com> Reply-To: leimberger@marbls.enet.dec.com () NNTP-Posting-Host: marbls.enet.dec.com In article , Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) writes: |>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!mrnews.mro.dec.com!funlwb.stl.dec.com!jac.zko.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decuac.dec.com!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.larc.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov!not-for-mail |>From: Norman@eisner.decus.org (Richard) |>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave |>Subject: Re: Realistic wheel motion |>Followup-To: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave |>Date: 19 Apr 1995 20:48:09 GMT |>Organization: Entropy |>Lines: 48 |>Message-ID: |>References: <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov |> |>In article <3n34bn$9td@News1.mcs.com>, Dan Ablan wrote: |> |>> glewis@pcocd2.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis - MPG DA ~) wrote: |>> |>> > I am relatively new to LightWave, and would like to create |>> > realistic motion of wheels, such that I can send a vehicle along a |>> > path and the wheels would always stay in full contact with the |>> > ground, and rotate properly, even when the vehicle itself is changing |>> > headings. |>> |>> Depending on what the road condiditons are |>> like in your animation, the best way to do this |>> is calculate your distance, the size of your |>> wheel, and rotate it once over the right number |>> of frames. Then repeat the motion. |>> |> |>If the wheel is part of a car object, you will need to separate it in |>modeler and save the wheel as a separate object. And the car with no |>wheels as an object. |> Glenn, Glad to see you on the LW wagon. The Feburary issue of LWPro has an article titled "Land Vehicle Movement". The author Joe Dox goes into setting up the scene, Moving the vehicle, computing wheel rotation, and give the math formula's for all velocity, and rotation. There is a macro on the LWPro disk to aid in rotation and distance. Joe ran a clip of his "Full Metel Hummer" at the local user group and it was really slick. bill From Harv@cup.portal.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:03 PDT 1995 Article: 5167 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5167 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!Harv From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Gokart Model wanted..... Date: 24 Apr 1995 10:00:09 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 29 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Message-ID: <137501@cup.portal.com> References: <9504222223.AA000nj@crazybe.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com >Hi All, > >As I'm pretty crap at modeler at the mo (getting the LW vids soon though), >I'm looking for a model of a 'GoKart', for a small pvt project I'm working >on. If there is one on any of the any sites then please tell me so I can >get it. > >Thanks for any help and I just hope that this messages is getting out in >the first place. :) > >-- >* ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ .--------------------------. * > * . . `; -._ )-;-,_`) | Andrew Barnett | * There's a nice "racekart" (go-kart) scene file including objects, image maps, surfaces, lights, etc. on the LightROM2 CD just published by Fred Fish's Amiga Library services. This CD has to be one of the bargains of all time.. contains over 8000 Lightwave-related files including objects, scenes, texture maps, texts, 3rd party demo software, an art gallery, plus thumbnail screens in many formats of every object on the CD. Send email to "info@amigalib.com" for more info or to order. The CD retails for US$39.95. You can probably source it from a local UK dealer as well, if you'd rather. There's enough stuff on this CD to keep you rendering well into the next century. Harv harv@cup.portal.com From ladic@cs.ubc.ca Tue Apr 25 21:37:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5168 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5168 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!UBC!ladic From: ladic@cs.ubc.ca (Lance Ladic) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Lightwave performance: Win95 vs. Win/NT??? Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 23:45:17 PST Organization: University of British Columbia, Canada Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ladic.home.cs.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Hi All, I'm just wondering what the performance difference will be if running Lightwave PC under Win95 vs. Win/NT. Should there be no difference? BTW, I'm currently running the Final Beta Preview version of Win95, and can report that it is quite stable (at least more stable than Win3.x and a bit more stable than WfW3.11.) Memory/resource management is *much* improved over earlier versions of 16-bit Windows, and Win95 does promise multitasking/multithreading of properly designed 32-bit apps. I like the new interface of Win95 a lot more than the (now) somewhat dated interface used in Win/NT (which is the same as that of Win3.x and WfW, for those that do not know.) Also, from what I've heard/actually tested myself using the Win95 Preview, Win95 offers better compatibility with older 16-bit apps than Win/NT, as well as better driver support for a larger base of hardware accessories. My preliminary assessment seems to indicate that Win95 is better suited to stand alone setups than Win/NT (even though networking capabilities are included with Win95.) I know that Win/NT offers OpenGL graphics support, but what further rationale is there for selecting NT over 95 for a single user setup in terms of doing animation using Lightwave? --Lance. ladic@cs.ubc.ca "The owls *are* what they seem -- rodent killers!" ;) From cevanim@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:18 PDT 1995 Article: 5169 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5169 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Pre-Render Checks ? Date: 24 Apr 1995 14:01:50 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3ngp2e$jcr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Would you pass along a few ideas on how you do your pre-render checks prior to doing the final rendering. We've had several cases where we thought everything was OK only to find out after a full render that we had problems. What techniques/formats do you use to check and double check before the final render ? Ed CEVAnim@aol.com From spworley@netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5170 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5170 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!spworley From: spworley@netcom.com (Steve Worley) Subject: Re: Best Monitors 19" to 21"? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> <3nglsk$h3e@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 19:21:19 GMT Lines: 35 Sender: spworley@netcom4.netcom.com >In <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) >writes: >>I'm wondering what people are using as monitors in this size range. >>I'm using the Number 9 GXE card that came with my Aspen Alpha, so I >>want a monitor that does at least 1280x1024. >> >>I've looked at the NEC XP21 (pricey, but nice.), Sony's 21" (it's >>okay, I think they really need to work on their voltage regulation...) >> You'll find most people are loyal to whatever they buy, but here's my opinion. I have a 17" NEC 5FG. It's great, but the glass screen can be very glary if you don't have the right lighting. I also have a 20" Nanao T660i. This has as Trinitron tube, so the resolution is truly excellent. I run in 1280x1024 mode at all times now, and there's no problems or strain. I figured that I stare at this thing every day, so investing in a good monitor is important. The Nanao, with digital controls, antiglare screen, Trinitron tube, dual inputs, color correction, geometry correction, and power management just can't be beat. OK, I'm biased, but I wish I had a second one! -Steve spworley@netcom.com ObLightwave: I don't see much difference in the performance of Lighwave's wireframe layout update between a $550 ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, a $200 ATI Graphics Xpression, and a $250 Diamond Stealth. The GUP has the redeeming feature of 1280x1084 at 24 bits though. From gcoulter@dmu.ac.uk Tue Apr 25 21:38:17 PDT 1995 Article: 5171 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5171 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!seralph9!dmu!gcoulter From: gcoulter@dmu.ac.uk (Gary Coulter) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 in the UK Date: 24 Apr 1995 19:30:38 GMT Organization: De Montfort University, Leicester, UK Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ngu8u$4rs@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> References: <3nfpeq$1l4@fileserv.aber.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.dmu.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mike (mhr@aber.ac.uk) wrote: : Dear All. : As a relatively new user of LW (and being stuck in the UK) I : haven't been through the upgrade before so apologies for some simple : questions : No problem, I`m in the same boat as you but I have been asking around and I think I know what the best option is for upgrading in the UK. I talked to Premier Vision and they told me that the UK upgrade price was 150 (UK Pounds) BUT.... they also said that if I phoned NewTek they would upgrade me for $150 (US Dolls) + postage and packing. NewTek said that Lightwave 4.0 PAL will be ready for shipping to the UK in about 3 weeks. : Will upgrades for registered users be handled solely through : NewTek, or will the individual distributors in each country be : responsible ? : Has a UK upgrade price been established ? : And will the PAL version of LW 4.0 be available at the same : time ? -- -Gary- * ----------------------- Gary Coulter ------------------------ * MA Multimedia Design DeMontfort University, Leicester, UK. * ----------------- Email: gcoulter@dmu.ac.uk ----------------- * From eadrazen@crl.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:10 PDT 1995 Article: 5172 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5172 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!crl9.crl.com!not-for-mail From: eadrazen@crl.com (Erich Drazen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Final Release of LW 4.0 for PC Date: 24 Apr 1995 13:47:05 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3nh2o9$g1h@crl9.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl9.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >From what I have been reading, NewTek has released a pre-release of LW 4.0 for Windows. I was wondering if anybody knew when the final release of LW 4.0 for Windows is scheduled for? I would rather wait until all the bugs have been worked out and all the manuals are ready. Thanks. Erich From justin.barrett@tenforwd.bbs.net Tue Apr 25 21:37:31 PDT 1995 Article: 5173 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5173 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!tenforwd!justin.barrett From: justin.barrett@tenforwd.bbs.net (Justin Barrett) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LW PC Macros? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 08:46:00 GMT Message-ID: <9504220719441343@tenforwd.bbs.net> Organization: Ten Forward BBS Distribution: world References: <3n3lhn$q5i@news.tamu.edu> Lines: 3 info lwplugin-l * Q-Blue 1.0 * From edreams@pd.org Tue Apr 25 21:39:44 PDT 1995 Article: 5174 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5174 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!edreams From: edreams@pd.org (Scott Bragg) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Elastic Reality's HIIP? Date: 25 Apr 1995 05:11:12 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3ni09h$bnk@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <3nco2h$8qf@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: noel.pd.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] David Ingebretsen (dingebre@xmission.xmission.com) wrote: : Does Elastic Reality's HIIP code come with the Amiga version? : AND : Are the Syndesis Interchange Plug-Ins the same version as in previous : LightWave releases? If they are updates, do they run on the Amiga : version? : -- : David : David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** : dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** I haven't seen the Amiga version of LW40 yet, but the Flyer 4.0 definitely has the ER HIIP plugins... so I would only assume that lightwave Amiga will have them also... -- Scott Bragg Electron Dreams edreams@noel.pd.org an animation house specialties: 3D Animation and Simulation From edreams@pd.org Tue Apr 25 21:37:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5175 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5175 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!edreams From: edreams@pd.org (Scott Bragg) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 25 Apr 1995 05:17:49 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Lines: 39 Message-ID: <3ni0lt$bu5@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: noel.pd.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] David Ingebretsen (dingebre@xmission.xmission.com) wrote: : Walter (Jay) Turberville (wturber@primenet.com) wrote: : : My point was not that single framing is dead, but that the trend is away from : : it. I don't expect it to be the rage next year any more than I expect the : : Amiga to be revived in anything like full glory. Few non-linear systems can : : beat Beta SP right now. But they are getting better. How close will the : : Perception be (it is part of the trend)? The point of the comparison was that : : there are fairly predictable trends in both cases. I did not say that single : : framing was useless or even a poor way to go to tape. I also did not say that : : Amigas were useless or necessarily poor choices as computers. I was merely : : saying that there is a predictable trend away from each. : Good point. I did misunderstand a bit what you said. I have dabbled : enough in the stock market to know that I'm not very good at predicting : trends, even when they seem painfully obvious. There has never been a : trend towards the Amiga. It always has and (trend prediction coming :) ) : probably always will be a very narrow niche market. : : I read the posts as well. ESCOM may be a great company with great vision. : : But face it. They have great problems to overcome. I was sincere when I said : : that I'd love the original poster to be able to legitimately say "I told you : : so." I just don't think it is a reasonable expectation. : I don't know... I just don't know what is or isn't a reasonable : expectation anymore. Certainly it is a bit premature to be holding a : return of the Amiga party.... : -- : David : David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** : dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** -- Scott Bragg Electron Dreams edreams@noel.pd.org an animation house specialties: 3D Animation and Simulation From edreams@pd.org Tue Apr 25 21:39:47 PDT 1995 Article: 5176 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5176 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!emory!edreams From: edreams@pd.org (Scott Bragg) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Additional info on PC Toaster/Flyer Date: 25 Apr 1995 05:20:26 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ni0qq$bu5@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> References: <3nb37n$dlk@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: noel.pd.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Douglas Nakakihara (djn@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned the following information. I spoke : to NewTek yesterday and found out that the Flyer card in the new PC : Toaster/Flyer (PCTFB) is exactly the same card as the Amiga version. : The PCTFB contains a built-in TBC and has room for three removable HDs. : Now why would an Amiga user want the $3,000 box, sans Flyer? Well : apparently the "new" Toaster will do effects a little differently. Some : of them will be the same real-time effects. However, some effects, : particularly the ones that scale video will be *rendered* using : LightWave. Currently there is no Paint program and I forgot to ask : about CG. : -- : //// : * * --Doug : ~ djn@ix.netcom.com "What a silly bunt..." -- Scott Bragg Electron Dreams edreams@noel.pd.org an animation house specialties: 3D Animation and Simulation From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:37:54 PDT 1995 Article: 5177 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5177 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:20:12 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3ni0qc$60e@shell.globalone.net> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] MCPEEPERS (mcpeepers@aol.com) wrote: : The Amiga has just been revived and currently in the intensive care unit. : Rest assured, she will be fine and doing well in a couple of months, and : at that time.......'To Those Who Left The Amiga', will put their money : where their mouth is: Dude, if there's only one thing you should have learned from the events of the past year, it's that NOTHING in this liquidation fiasco is going smoothly! Granted, some very important steps were finally taken last week, but this thing is far from finished and it's gonna be a long time before we see brand new Amigas selling again! (VERY optimistically = 2 months) And if the Amiga somehow recaptures a fraction of it's former glory, do you really think that developers are gonna be scrambling to port their software to it? I mean, how many developers have dumped the Amiga in the past year? Do you think they're gonna be that anxious to come back to the Amiga?? Yes, I'm pleased that my 3 Amigas may have just been granted a reprieve from doorstop status, or at least got their lives extended a bit further, but honestly, I'm still shopping for a nice Pentium system to sit next to them and I'm definitely getting LightWave 4.0 for the PC. I know what you're going through though...I felt really happy this past weekend when I read that there were some real developments in the buyout, but try to keep your perspective on this...the Amiga will NEVER reach the status that the IBM or Mac currently has and the people that left the Amiga for other platforms did not make mistakes, they simply chose to follow safer paths. Safe is Nice. Just Another Fraggin' Opinion. -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:38:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5178 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5178 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Why LightWave? Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:27:13 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3ni17h$61q@shell.globalone.net> References: <3neg3q$tl@aristotle.algonet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Erik Rosman (erikr@algonet.se) wrote: : What makes LightWave 3D better than 3D Studio? : Advantages and Disadvantages. Could someone experienced please make a list? : What does LightWave have that 3D Studio doesn't? and vice versa. The user interface is highly intuitive, extremely efficient(in most cases), and is an actually fun to use...these things alone give you the ability to produce impressive 3D animations with minimal effort/expertise in a relatively short period of time and you might even enjoy yourself while you're at it! =) -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Tue Apr 25 21:39:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5179 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5179 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 04:36:49 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 23 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3ni1qn$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3n8p5p$5bs@hermes.unt.edu> <3na0id$nnd@Mercury.mcs.com> <3na8ho$rhh@hermes.unt.edu> <3nb33l$jrp@Mars.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3nb33l$jrp@Mars.mcs.com>, johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) wrote: > [snip] >Let's say you were waiting for the President to come out on the balcony >and make a statement. Since you don't know exactly WHEN he's gonna do >that, you'd leave your camera running, to be sure and get it. With a >direct-to-disk setup, your hard drive would fill up quickly if you just >left it running. > >With the Ikegami setup, you flipped a switch, and it would continuously >record over the same couple of tracks on the drive, over and over. When >what you wanted to save happened, you flipped the switch back again, and >the recorder would then just continue with normal recording. > Very interesting idea, but it sounds like hell on the hard drive. Was there any talk about going to some other type of computer readable digital media? High speed optical? Flash RAM? Anything? Sorry - I'll stop the computer speak now. Brian From jmcdan1969@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5180 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5180 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmcdan1969@aol.com (JMcdan1969) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: ATTN: NEWTEK, and anyone else that might know... Date: 24 Apr 1995 23:13:51 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nhpdf$t8u@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: jmcdan1969@aol.com (JMcdan1969) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello, I'd like to know if you have a Trial or Demo version of LW 4.0 for the Windoze or Windose NT? I've tried calling marketing and there is only one lady that can help me and she's either always on the phone or not there. Thanks, J.J. McDaniel From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:38:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5181 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5181 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:45:31 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3ni29r$663@shell.globalone.net> References: <137488@cup.portal.com> <3ngk5g$i83@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I would definitely not want to be competing with work that people got paid to do....most of the stuff I've done so far has been for my own edification and enjoyment, so I guess this would fall into the NON-CORPORATE category. Submissions should be accepted on everything down to VHS quality for judging only...if an entry is picked as a winner and you guys want to produce a video compilation of the winners (which you should) then you'll need to make arrangements to get the animations on a higher quality format. Personally, the best I can do is S-VHS and even that isn't very good since I'm using a DCTV as display device. (yuck!) I don't mind paying an entry fee...it keeps people honest about their work...if a person feels that his/her entry has a chance then he/she won't mind paying a few dollars to submit it into a contest, especially if the entry fee is put toward the purchase of better prizes. Maybe every paid entry could receive a free copy of the anim compilation videotape? Also, to save work on yourselves, limit the number of anims per entrant to maybe 5 or 6...this way you won't have to sit through 5-10 minutes worth of sucky flying logos from every entrant! This will force the people entering to send only their best work. Looking forward to entering your contest.... -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Tue Apr 25 21:37:40 PDT 1995 Article: 5182 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5182 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 04:57:44 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 27 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3ni31u$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com>, dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) wrote: >I don't know... I just don't know what is or isn't a reasonable >expectation anymore. Certainly it is a bit premature to be holding a >return of the Amiga party.... > Well, in my experience with computers, *reasonable* has never really played much of a factor. IBM compatable PC's are by far the largest block of computers on desktops in the world and the technology behind them is old and kludgy. I've never owned anything but a PC, but I've used almost any system you can imagine. The only thing I've ever found that I detest more than my 10 years of MS DOS experience is IBM's VMS. Yet, DOS/Windows thrives. I don't get it. Certainly ain't *reasonable*. The Amy was/is an excellent implementation of computer technology. But, elegance alone will never sell computers. The new Amy, if ESCOM is going to target anyone aside from old Amy users and DTV pros, will have to be cross platform compatable, user friendly, fast, upgradable, fast, inexpensive, networkable, fast, easy to invest money in, and it definitly must be very very fast. Imagine....PCI, PowerPC (or Alpha?), SCSI3, Mpeg on board, 8 megs of Chip Ram, 8 channel 16 bit audio, etc, etc, etc....and teh Amiga OS. Oh, and if I ever see that damned Amiga non-interlaced flicker again I'm going to barf. Brian From mcoats@qnet.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:53 PDT 1995 Article: 5183 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5183 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!qnet.com!cello!mcoats From: Manuel Coats Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Screen Grabber Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 22:51:39 -0700 Organization: Quantum Networking Solutions, Inc. - (805) 538-2030 Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.qnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mcoats@cello Are there any Screen Grabber type programs floating around on the net? I would like to grab a modeler screen of mine and save it to disk. Manny From mcoats@qnet.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:55 PDT 1995 Article: 5184 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5184 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!qnet.com!cello!mcoats From: Manuel Coats Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Screen Grabber Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 22:52:23 -0700 Organization: Quantum Networking Solutions, Inc. - (805) 538-2030 Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.qnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mcoats@cello My last message should have reflected that the screen grabber is for my Pentium, and not an amiga. Thanks. From hardin@ee.ualberta.ca Tue Apr 25 21:40:19 PDT 1995 Article: 5185 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5185 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!news.Direct.CA!scipio.cyberstore.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!hardin From: hardin@ee.ualberta.ca (Hardin Brett Arvid) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Need help to find LW mags in US Date: 25 Apr 1995 05:57:51 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering Department Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3ni30v$a4o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <34812.7707986111@tlink.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: eigen.ee.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Peter Robertson (peter@tlink.demon.co.uk) wrote: | I am a LW user in the UK feeling starved of news/tips/add-ons etc etc. | Could somebody let me have the name/address/tel no of the publishers of | Lightwave Pro and any other US LW mags you would recommend so that I can | subscribe to them. | Many thanks LightSmith (the Magazine) 1-403-437-9765 90 Fairway Drive Edmonton, AB T6J-2C5 some of the best LW artists out there. Mark Thompson Dan Ablan Colin Cunningham Mark Kochinski Tim Wilcox (Later) Arnie Boedecker Chris Alexander Trent Johnson articles from Modeling to tutorials with Photoshop... From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:40:27 PDT 1995 Article: 5186 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5186 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Need Recommendation... Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:14:08 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 44 Message-ID: <3ni3vg$68l@shell.globalone.net> References: <3neb1s$2r2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Daga1 (daga1@aol.com) wrote: : From what I have heard, LW is phenomenal, head and shoulders above the : rest. But I have also heard that the new sw will cost about $700 (is this : correct?) and that a board will be required -- but I don't know what this : board is -- can someone tell me? It supposedly costs $3000. LightWave 4.0 for the PC has just begun shipping...it is currently still a "work-in-progress" with many things that need to fixed and added. It has a list price of $995 and will probably sell for about $850 or so on the street. Anyone who purchases the current "Pre-Release" version will receive the final release for free. There is no hardware required to run LightWave 4.0 for the PC other than an adequate PC system...in the past though, when LightWave was only available for the Amiga, you needed a Video Toaster to run LightWave. (The Video Toaster is a magical device that does everything except make toast. =) ) : Please feel free to suggest any essential hw components that you think make sense. The only essentials for running LightWave on a PC are: 486 or Pentium CPU, (it MAY run on a 386 but you wouldn't like it!) lots of memory, (32megs will be adequate) lots of storage, (at least 1gig to store rendered images) decent S-VGA display, (something like 1024x768 with a minimum of 256 colors) CD-Rom drive, (needed to access example stuff that comes on CD) and you need at least Windows 3.11 or Windows NT 3.5 (running LightWave under NT environment will increase performance significantly but comes with a hefty cost in memory and storage...you'll lose 12megs of RAM and 80+megs of hard drive storage just by installing and running Windows NT, but it seems to be worth it) This is all posted off the top of my head from stuff I've here and on the LW mailing list....I don't have LightWave for the PC yet, nor do I have a PC yet, but I've been researching the subject thoroughly and will be purchasing a system very soon. (along with LW 4.0 for PC) LightWave is far superior to anything else out there, except for maybe the stuff that's used in Hollywood, but if you've got a couple hundred grand to drop on CGI then there's not much else to say..... =) -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu Tue Apr 25 21:38:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5187 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5187 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!bert From: bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 05:19:33 GMT Organization: The.Truth.Com Lines: 54 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3ni4at$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> References: <137472@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <137472@cup.portal.com>, AVID@cup.portal.com (Jim C Plant) wrote: >TO ALL: > >We are in the process of launching a animation contest in to >promote the prowess of LightWave 3D and showcase the talents of >LightWave 3D users around the world. The first advertisements >for the contest will appear in the July issue of Video Toaster >User. Because of long lead times, we have about a week to >finalize the details of the contest before we run into >production deadlines for completing the contest ads. In the five >years of the company's existence we've only run one contest, so >we don't have a lot of experience in this area. We would sure >appreciate your comments on what you think comprises a good >contest. Here are some of the details we are currently wrestling >with: > >1. Animation Categories: how many and what type? I'd like to see a Best 3D Model group. >2. Prizes: we've had a lot of our advertisers offer to donate their >products as prizes. Everything from animation recorders to 3D >digitizers to all kinds of software. How should we distribute these >prizes? What animation categories should get the best prizes? Realavance (sp?) should be the key. For instance, the guy who *really* wants that 3D digitizer should probably make an organic or a very detailed model. The recorder should go to a longer animation that maybe tells a short story. Paint packages should go to the animator who did the best surfacing or post processing of frame. >3. Entry formats: what tape formats should we accept for entries? Keep it accessable to the lowly user. Obviously most of us can send a VHS or SVHS tape, but many of us have no way of getting to tape. I can't imagine that Avid has the time/money/equipment/people to allow the submission of scene files and their elements, but it might be a consideration. I'd love to see it. I guess this would also depend on how you want to organize the process. Maybe all animations are submitted in VHS for an initial viewing. Maybe the "people in the running" for prizes are then contacted and asked to submit a higher resolution rendering on a nicer format, accompanied by a print resolution rendering on disk(s). >4. Entry fees: should we have them? if yes, then how much? > >Any and all comments on these contest details, or any others, >would be greatly appreciated. > >Jim Plant >Video Toaster User Magazine Brian From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:40:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5188 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5188 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: MORE Rendering Errors in LW3.5 Date: 25 Apr 1995 02:43:09 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <3ni5lt$6ag@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Here's something weird: I just picked up LW3.5 Standalone a few weeks ago and put my 040 based A3000 to work on a big animation I've been rendering on my Toaster for a number of weeks (months?) now. Occasionally when I start rendering a scene with LW3.5 Standalone I'll notice white speckles all through the final image....I can see them actually come up on the B&W rendering display as the scene is in progress and the only way to get rid of them is to shut the A3000 off and on again, reload everything, and start rendering all over. This problem has only occured maybe a half dozen times since I got the Standalone version a month ago and it has NEVER happened on the Toaster version. Another, more annoying problem reared it's ugly head after I had rendered over 1000 frames of an anim (at more than 1 hour per frame) on the two different machines. When I had a friend check the animation for me he noticed that there was slight difference between every other frame, meaning that the frames rendered on the A3000(w/28mhz Warp Engine 040 and 16megs RAM) with LW 3.5 Standalone were slightly different than the frames rendered on a Toaster equipped A2000(w/33mhz GVP G-Force 040 and 16megs RAM). To varify that there was a definite difference between rendered frames, I compared file sizes....as an example, a frame rendered on the A3000 was 205,382 bytes and the same frame rendered on the A2000 was 199,177 bytes! The difference between the two frames is not significant...in fact, being legally blind, I never noticed the difference until it was pointed out to me by a normally sighted person and then, of course, I noticed it when I rerendered the same frame on the A2000 and compared file sizes. These differently sized frames generated using the same scene with the exact same objects and everything....the only differences were the computers and the versions of software used. So, what's the deal? Is LightWave 3.5 Standalone different from LightWave 3.5 for the Toaster or is there something else wrong with maybe my A3000? (which might explain the speckled rendering glitch) -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:39:30 PDT 1995 Article: 5189 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5189 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave content to PC Date: 25 Apr 1995 03:03:53 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 49 Message-ID: <3ni6sp$6cq@shell.globalone.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Gross (jgross@netcom.com) wrote: : Does anybody have a mountlist file for Amiga OS 3.1 to enable a : bernoulli 150 or 230 PC formatted disk to be read on an Amiga? (used to : transfer LW content to a PC) John, I dunno if this will help or not, but here's an OS3.1 mountlist entry for a 5meg IBM partition I've been using with CrossDos/CrossPC. With the appropriate changes, you should be able to get this to work with your Bernoulli and CrossDos. (I assume you're using CrossDos) /* Mountlist entry for MS-DOS Image partition */ Surfaces = 1 BlocksPerTrack = 49 LowCyl = 1870 HighCyl = 2048 DosType = 0x4d534800 Buffers = 5 BufMemType = 0 Activate = 1 Device = scsi.device Unit = 6 Flags = 0 FileSystem = L:CrossDOSFileSystem StackSize = 2000 Priority = 5 GlobVec = -1 You probably know this already, but the Surfaces and BlocksPerTrack values can be found in your Bernoulli manual...the LowCyl and HighCyl values could also be found in the manual or in the PC's HD setup software....Device should be changed to whatever type of scsi.device driver you're using in your Amiga and Unit should be changed to whatever the Bernoulli's SCSI ID number is. The two most important fields are DosType and FileSystem...those will definitely work with an IBM formatted disk. (at least, they work with my CrossPC emulation software) Hope this helps...leave me mail if it doesn't and I'll try to help further. -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From davewarner@globalone.net Tue Apr 25 21:39:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5190 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5190 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!news.globalone.net!not-for-mail From: davewarner@globalone.net Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Pre-Render Checks ? Date: 25 Apr 1995 03:21:27 -0400 Organization: Global One, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <3ni7tn$6d6@shell.globalone.net> References: <3ngp2e$jcr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell.globalone.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] CEVAnim (cevanim@aol.com) wrote: : What techniques/formats do you use to check and double check before the : final render ? Lots of wireframes....Low-Res QuickRender of every other frame played back at 15 frames per second to varify everything is cool with motion paths and object/camera placement....many times I'll even do a Low-Res normal Render (without antialiasing) of every other frame and then playback at 15fps to make sure image maps and lighting is correct. Only recently (after purchase of LW 3.5 Standalone) have I started to render anims in Medium Res with Low AA and I find that the above tests can REALLY avoid a lot of wasted renderings...even if you have to spend a couple of days doing test renders, it's a LOT easier to take than rendering for weeks only to find annoying little errors! Most of my work is still not-for-pay but these are "rules" that would certainly help in a corporate environment. -- -David Warner Event Horizon Graphics From fffinc@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5191 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5191 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: fffinc@aol.com (FFF Inc) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Best Monitors 19" to 21"? Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:52:32 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 24 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nhv6g$287@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> Reply-To: fffinc@aol.com (FFF Inc) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Charles wrote: >Hiya, >I'm wondering what people are using as monitors in this size range. >I'm using the Number 9 GXE card that came with my Aspen Alpha, so I >want a monitor that does at least 1280x1024. >I've looked at the NEC XP21 (pricey, but nice.), Sony's 21" (it's >okay, I think they really need to work on their voltage regulation...) >Any opinions on IDEK, Mag Innovision, Viewsonic etc? >Thanks! I've both a 20" and a 21" Viewsonic in my shop. The 20" has been powered on for over 3 years now and looks great still. The 21" is newer, with more setup features, nice flat screen, and a joy to stare at for endless hours. I looked at the NEC 21 before buying the Viesonics and could not get one to look good off our SGI machines. They all exhibited interference patterns in them. NEC sent five in and they all had this characteristic. My opinion only. Casey Herbert _____C__a__s__e__y_____H__e__r__b__e__r__t_____ _____c h i e f p i x e l w r a n g l e r_____ _____Flying Foto Factory, Inc Durham, NC_____ _____919-682-3411 voice 919-688-7886 fax_____ ______________________________________________ CONTENT MAY SETTLE DURING TRANSMISSION From rememwhen@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:41:05 PDT 1995 Article: 5192 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5192 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rememwhen@aol.com (RememWhen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Flyer DAT Backups Problem Date: 25 Apr 1995 00:57:22 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nhvfi$2c8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n8aks$9eu@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: rememwhen@aol.com (RememWhen) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Thierry, I purchased an ARCHIVE PYTHON DAT drive and AMIBACK back-up software from a friend who is going overseas and selling ALL of his thousands of dollars worth of equipment (A4000's, A3000's, accessories, etc.)... I understand from him that it is not a very antiquated DAT drive at all and the software boasts that it is "the best" back-up software for the Amiga. This combination of DAT drive and software work GREAT! As expected it does take a long time to back up one of my 4-Gig drives (I have a Flyer with 2 Seagate 4-Gig drives)... Paul Remember When... Video Services From wturber@primenet.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5193 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5193 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip078.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave content to PC Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 03:03:37 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <3ni6sp$6cq@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip078.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3ni6sp$6cq@shell.globalone.net> davewarner@globalone.net writes: >From: davewarner@globalone.net >Subject: Re: LightWave content to PC >Date: 25 Apr 1995 03:03:53 -0400 >John Gross (jgross@netcom.com) wrote: >: Does anybody have a mountlist file for Amiga OS 3.1 to enable a >: bernoulli 150 or 230 PC formatted disk to be read on an Amiga? (used to >: transfer LW content to a PC) >John, I dunno if this will help or not, but here's an OS3.1 mountlist entry >for a 5meg IBM partition I've been using with CrossDos/CrossPC. With the >appropriate changes, you should be able to get this to work with your >Bernoulli and CrossDos. (I assume you're using CrossDos) >/* Mountlist entry for MS-DOS Image partition */ >Surfaces = 1 >BlocksPerTrack = 49 >LowCyl = 1870 >HighCyl = 2048 >DosType = 0x4d534800 >Buffers = 5 >BufMemType = 0 >Activate = 1 >Device = scsi.device >Unit = 6 >Flags = 0 >FileSystem = L:CrossDOSFileSystem >StackSize = 2000 >Priority = 5 >GlobVec = -1 >You probably know this already, but the Surfaces and BlocksPerTrack values >can be found in your Bernoulli manual...the LowCyl and HighCyl values could >also be found in the manual or in the PC's HD setup software....Device >should be changed to whatever type of scsi.device driver you're using in >your Amiga and Unit should be changed to whatever the Bernoulli's SCSI ID >number is. >The two most important fields are DosType and FileSystem...those will >definitely work with an IBM formatted disk. (at least, they work with my >CrossPC emulation software) >Hope this helps...leave me mail if it doesn't and I'll try to help further. >-- > -David Warner > Event Horizon Graphics > I went around in circles trying to mount a SyQuest 2000 on OS 2.1 and OS 2.04 (using an older version of CrossDos that came with one of the mags from the UK.) Nothing worked. I finally brokes down and ordered CrossDos 6.0 (no CrossPC) for about $50. It was worth the money easily. Very easy - no brainer install. I have no idea what my new mountlist looks like because the install routine did its job wonderfully. If time is money and you are making slow progress I'd recommend the purchase. I should have done it earlier. OTOH if you have a bunch of machines and they all have 3.1 then it may be worth the time. Prices on multiple software copies add up fast. One weird thing tho. The Amiga now reads the PC formatted SyQuest's directory VERY fast compared to an Amiga directory. I didn't clock it or anything, but the apparent speed difference is very different for the same hardware. _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From wturber@primenet.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:22 PDT 1995 Article: 5194 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5194 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip078.phx.primenet.com!wturber From: wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Pre-Render Checks ? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 03:26:39 LOCAL Organization: Primenet Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <3ngp2e$jcr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip078.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3ngp2e$jcr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) writes: >From: cevanim@aol.com (CEVAnim) >Subject: Pre-Render Checks ? >Date: 24 Apr 1995 14:01:50 -0400 >Would you pass along a few ideas on how you do your pre-render checks >prior to doing the final rendering. We've had several cases where we >thought everything was OK only to find out after a full render that we had >problems. >What techniques/formats do you use to check and double check before the >final render ? >Ed >CEVAnim@aol.com It depends. I have no good answer. I still get blindsided at times. I do different checks depending on the nature of the animation. We had an animation where we had half-spheres that swept across the screen (horizontally) fairly close up and fairly quickly. Looked great on the PAR at Lo-Res. At Med-Res the half-spheres suffered extreme TEMPORAL ALIASING (hey - I learned that from one of the mags - cool - kinda like from Star Trek: "Captain! I cannot perform a conclusive scan of the intruder because my equipment is experiencing TEMPORAL ALIASING!! One moment its there, the next its gone. Trying field rendering NOW!) Uh - sorry. Anyway if I have something with fast moving objects now, I am inclined to test with field-rendering and/or motion blur in quickshade to determine if I have a temporal aliasing problem (jumpy looking motion). If I have time, I like to do a full pass with med-res and no anti-aliasing. BTW, for those who poo-poo the speed advantages of the non-Amiga machines, I'm looking forward to being able to make more previews. BTW - I too am curious as to what tips other more expert/experienced animators might suggest. "The owls are not what they seem because their images are being distorted by . . . TEMPORAL ALIASING." (Sorry again - its just such a cool term . . . and its late.) _________________________________________________________________ Walter (Jay) Turberville |wturber@primenet.com wturber@aol.com Phoenix, AZ |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber ...........................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber From jup519@freenet.mb.ca Tue Apr 25 21:38:09 PDT 1995 Article: 5195 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5195 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!hookup!news.Direct.CA!scipio.cyberstore.ca!vanbc.wimsey.com!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!news.sasknet.sk.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!pooh.freenet.mb.ca!winnie.freenet.mb.ca!jup519 From: Phil Bonomo Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 06:08:41 -0500 Organization: Blue Sky FreeNet of Manitoba Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <1995Apr21.140930.1@ids> NNTP-Posting-Host: winnie.freenet.mb.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > Also there is a book out called Exploring LW 3D, I > have not seen this yet (Anyone got this yet???) but from the adverts, this > looks to be a good source of info. You may also want to check out "Lightwave on Location" I've just ordered it myself, and the ad looks pretty impressive.(anybody have this one already?) Always fishin' for more info! -JAY- MK ULTRA PRODUCTIONS WPG.MB.CANADA 1-(204)231-0816 "If you refuse, You die, She dies, Everybody dies!" From Redmanm@cris.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:27 PDT 1995 Article: 5196 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5196 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!warp.cris.com!viking.cris.com!Redmanm From: Redmanm@cris.com (Christina Rogers) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Pre-Render Checks ? Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:26:06 GMT Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3nipou$6da@warp.cris.com> References: <3ngp2e$jcr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: viking-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] CEVAnim (cevanim@aol.com) wrote: : Would you pass along a few ideas on how you do your pre-render checks : prior to doing the final rendering. We've had several cases where we : thought everything was OK only to find out after a full render that we had : problems. : What techniques/formats do you use to check and double check before the : final render ? : Ed : CEVAnim@aol.com Try this: Render the anim in super low-res with a step of 5 then check the render with a program like aworks. This will yield a fast render of every 5th frame. Should tell you if the anim is correct. From Redmanm@cris.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:57 PDT 1995 Article: 5197 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5197 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!warp.cris.com!viking.cris.com!Redmanm From: Redmanm@cris.com (Christina Rogers) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Screen Grabber Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:29:57 GMT Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3niq05$6da@warp.cris.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: viking-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Manuel Coats (mcoats@qnet.com) wrote: : My last message should have reflected that the screen grabber is for my : Pentium, and not an amiga. Thanks. If you Pentium is running Windows or NT, or '95, then just press Shift-PRNTSCR. This will copy the current screen to the clipboard. Then just load a bitmap editor (paintbrush, corel-Paint, etc.) and select Edit-Paste and the image will be pasted onto the current page. From dma@mcs.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5198 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5198 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!usenet From: Dan Ablan Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Need Recommendation... Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:53:26 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3nj2d6$emd@News1.mcs.com> References: <3neb1s$2r2@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3ni3vg$68l@shell.globalone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dma.pr.mcs.net davewarner@globalone.net wrote: > > Daga1 (daga1@aol.com) wrote: >There is no hardware required to run LightWave 4.0 > for the PC other than an adequate PC system...in the past though, when > LightWave was only available for the Amiga, you needed a Video Toaster to > run LightWave. (The Video Toaster is a magical device that does everything > except make toast. =) ) You forgot your dongle, for the PC version. From dma@mcs.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:39 PDT 1995 Article: 5199 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5199 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!psuvax1!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!usenet From: Dan Ablan Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Best Monitors 19 Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:57:45 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3nj2l9$emd@News1.mcs.com> References: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dma.pr.mcs.net >vector@panix.com (Charles Sung Lee) wrote: > I've looked at the NEC XP21 (pricey, but nice.), Sony's 21" (it's > okay, I think they really need to work on their voltage regulation...) I've got two monitors, which are both very nice. I'll take my 20" Magnavox off of my Amiga, and use it on my Pentium when it arrives. Then, my NEC 3fge MultiSync will go back on the Amiga. Go with NEC if you can afford it. However, although I wouldn't have thought of it, the Magnavox 20" is very nice... especially for the price I got. Stay away from the IDEK 17"... not all it's cracked up to be. Also, RADIUS makes some nice monitors. -Dan From mike.vandersommen@caddy.uu.silcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5201 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5201 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!news.mailorder.com!beach.silcom.com!caddy!mike.vandersommen From: mike.vandersommen@caddy.uu.silcom.com (Mike Vandersommen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Amiga, Mi Amigo Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:22:00 GMT Message-ID: <950425082318334@caddy.uu.silcom.com> Organization: Caddyshack BBS Distribution: world Lines: 31 -> From: wannab3d@aol.com (Wanna B 3D) -> So now that 4.0 ships, what's going to happen to us little Amigians? -> won't be able to say, "an Amiga did that" any longer. (frown) I hope -> Newtek won't let us fade away. The future is uncertain, and every st -> take has less margin for error. I own a PC also, and will probably -> upgrade to Win LW, it is just unfortunate. I guess the loyal PC crow -> will never understand. This is where it all STARTED! You can't ever -> change that FACT! Long Live The AMIGA. I know someone out there is -> listening... Obviously you've never seen any of the Friday the 13th movies. The Amiga is the "Jason" of the PC world. The Amiga was stillborn in '85 after launch....and no matter how many times it dies, it just never goes away! I moved over to the PC platform 3 years ago, yet I know better than to get rid of my 2000. While the Amiga's are/were great fun, they are afterall only a tool. I've never heard anyone getting too emotional over a lawnmover's brand name when it came time for a new one. :) _______________________________________________________ /_________________________________________________________\ /=============================================================\ =| Mike van der Sommen || Email: |= =| GraFX Haus BBS || mike.vandersommen@caddy.uu.silcom.com |= =| Santa Barbara, Ca. || ______________________________________ |= =| "..where the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse play golf..." |= =| 14.4k v.32bis 24 hours - 805-683-1388 |= \_____________________________________________________________/ --- þ InterNet - GraFX Haus BBS - Santa Barbara, Ca - (805) 683-1388 From AVID@cup.portal.com Tue Apr 25 21:39:50 PDT 1995 Article: 5202 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5202 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!AVID From: AVID@cup.portal.com (Jim C Plant) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Additional info on PC Toaster/Flyer Date: 25 Apr 1995 10:00:09 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 13 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <137555@cup.portal.com> References: <3nb37n$dlk@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com Hi Doug, Why would an Amiga owner want a $3,000 box sans Flyer? Well, he/she might want to take the box out into the field for direct-to-disk recording. He might also want to connect the box to another computer. You probably wouldn't want to be taking the Flyer in and out of your Amiga, but as I understand it, once its over in the new VT box, a cable connects back to a connector on the Toaster card (still in your Amiga) and your Amiga system thinks the Flyer is still inside. Now, whether you want to have your $10,000 plus VT box (with drives) out in the "field" is another issue altogether... :) Jim From m-video@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:53 PDT 1995 Article: 5203 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5203 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: m-video@ix.netcom.com (Michael Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: A4000 wanted in SF bay area Date: 25 Apr 1995 18:20:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3njehi$8cf@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-wc3-11.ix.netcom.com Is there any place that still sells A4000s? I would like to buy in the SF bay area if possible. All I need is a 4000 to stick my toaster 4000 in! thanks.... mike Also Is their any shops that can upgrade a NONsocketed rev 9 buster in the sf bay area? thanks From virtualbri@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5204 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5204 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: AD: 3.5 Stand-alone $400obo Date: 25 Apr 1995 14:14:11 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nje5j$9es@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: virtualbri@aol.com (VirtualBri) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Lightwave 3.5 Standalone for the Amiga $400, or best offer. Discs, dongle, and manual, perfect for the user starting into Lightwave on the Amiga. Would prefer to sell to someone in the SoCal region, just to avoid messy mail scams if possible. VirtualBri@aol.com From willgo3@netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5205 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5205 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!willgo3 From: willgo3@netcom.com (Grady O. Williams III) Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> <3ni31u$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:43:26 GMT Lines: 43 Sender: willgo3@netcom6.netcom.com TheTruth (bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu) wrote: : In article <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com>, : dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) wrote: : >I don't know... I just don't know what is or isn't a reasonable : >expectation anymore. Certainly it is a bit premature to be holding a : >return of the Amiga party.... : > : Well, in my experience with computers, *reasonable* has never really played : much of a factor. IBM compatable PC's are by far the largest block of : computers on desktops in the world and the technology behind them is old and : kludgy. I've never owned anything but a PC, but I've used almost any system : you can imagine. The only thing I've ever found that I detest more than my 10 : years of MS DOS experience is IBM's VMS. Yet, DOS/Windows thrives. I don't : get it. Certainly ain't *reasonable*. Familiarity??? I think that is the only real reason I stick with x86 systems... Because I know alot about them... And there is alot of market fir them and they fit a student budget... for a reasonable speedy system... : The Amy was/is an excellent implementation of computer technology. But, : elegance alone will never sell computers. The new Amy, if ESCOM is going to : target anyone aside from old Amy users and DTV pros, will have to be cross : platform compatable, user friendly, fast, upgradable, fast, inexpensive, : networkable, fast, easy to invest money in, and it definitly must be very very : fast. Yeah... When the Indy and DEC Alpha start hitting that $2000 mark, everone will probally have one.... speed mongers... : Imagine....PCI, PowerPC (or Alpha?), SCSI3, Mpeg on board, 8 megs of Chip Ram, : 8 channel 16 bit audio, etc, etc, etc....and teh Amiga OS. Oh, and if I ever : see that damned Amiga non-interlaced flicker again I'm going to barf. : Brian Really??? -- --G0w3 --Life isn't like a friggin box of chocolates you retard! you know what's inside... it says it on the package! From jgross@netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:22 PDT 1995 Article: 5206 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5206 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Need help to find LW mags in US Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <34812.7707986111@tlink.demon.co.uk> <3ni30v$a4o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:37:25 GMT Lines: 13 Sender: jgross@netcom23.netcom.com : | Could somebody let me have the name/address/tel no of the publishers of : | Lightwave Pro and any other US LW mags you would recommend so that I can : | subscribe to them. LightWave PRO Avid Media Group 273 N. Mathilda Drive Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-774-6770 JGross editor, LWPRO From Brad.Bowman@daytonoh.ncr.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5207 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5207 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub6!daynews!ranger!news From: Brad Bowman Subject: Got It! X-Nntp-Posting-Host: 149.25.26.106 Message-ID: Sender: news@ranger.daytonoh.attgis.com (News Administrative Login) Reply-To: Brad.Bowman@daytonoh.ncr.com Organization: AT&T GIS X-Newsreader: DiscussIT for Windows (1.8.6) [Software Products Division of AT&T/NCR] Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:47:39 GMT Lines: 21 Finally have LW 4.0 PC and it flies. My 486-66 rendered the texture example 2.86 times faster than my 68030-40. My friends Pentium-90 was then 3 times faster than my 486. This program flat out moves, and the best thing is that the screen doesn't flicker and I can use it at 1024 x 768 resolution. I already miss macros though. I had no idea hoe much I rely on the center macro and the random surface point macro for explosion effects. Good thing I haven't thrown away my Amiga. The documentation for the modeller is great but layout is the same as 3.5. They even have screamernet docs. There is no documentation for IK or network rendering. It multitasks very well, even under Windows 3.1. I had a rendering going on while I was printing color seperations from Corel Draw and it didn't crash. That is really saying something when running windows. I am probably going to migrate to NT. This program smokes. Brad Bowman Technical Consultant and 3D Animator - AT&T Global Information Solutions - Dayton, Ohio If you think your job is boring, you probably need to upgrade your software The Views Expressed by Me are Not Neccessarily the Views of AT&T (Mine are Cool) From jgross@netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:38:23 PDT 1995 Article: 5208 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5208 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Amiga LightWave Instructions Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <1995Apr24.125557.2855@opalo> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:42:44 GMT Lines: 10 Sender: jgross@netcom23.netcom.com LAUDRUP (BNR) (u6578092@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es) wrote: : Helo : I'm looking for instructions of Amiga LightWave(I prefer V3.5). : Have you got them in a file? Can you send me the file? : In other case, where can I find them? How about *buying* a version of the software that comes with instructions! JG From jgross@netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:00 PDT 1995 Article: 5209 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5209 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!jgross From: jgross@netcom.com (John Gross) Subject: Re: Screen Grabber Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:46:09 GMT Lines: 6 Sender: jgross@netcom23.netcom.com Grabbit Pro works well under NT. Manuel Coats (mcoats@qnet.com) wrote: : My last message should have reflected that the screen grabber is for my : Pentium, and not an amiga. Thanks. From michael@iglou.iglou.com Tue Apr 25 21:40:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5210 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5210 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!iglou!iglou.iglou.com!michael From: michael@iglou.iglou.com (Michael Meshew) Subject: Lightwave on Location/Exploring Lightwave 3D Message-ID: Summary: One & the same! Sender: news@iglou.com (News Administrator) Organization: IgLou Internet Services Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 21:53:43 GMT Lines: 9 Actually Lightwave on Location is now titled Exploring Lightwave 3D. The distributors wanted the title to explain the nature of the book. Hope this helps! Michael Meshew Graphic Detail From ehoffman@iac.net Tue Apr 25 21:38:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5211 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5211 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.intercon.com!news.iac.net!news.iac.net!not-for-mail From: ehoffman@iac.net (Ed Hoffmann) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Amiga LightWave Instructions Date: 25 Apr 1995 18:03:04 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3njrio$c9e@little-miami.iac.net> References: <1995Apr24.125557.2855@opalo> NNTP-Posting-Host: little-miami.iac.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] LAUDRUP (BNR) (u6578092@soneto.etsiig.uniovi.es) wrote: : Helo : I'm looking for instructions of Amiga LightWave(I prefer V3.5). : Have you got them in a file? Can you send me the file? : In other case, where can I find them? You find them in the LightWave manual, you know, that binder with all the paper in it you got with LightWave when you bought it? You did buy it, right? No? Well, then..... : .... : Where do we go from? : Where we do go to? : .... I don't know, but YOU are out of here! [I see you are picking up on the Western custom of pirating software - don't do that, we hate it!] : Thanks. Oh, anytime! -- ------------------------------------ my sig! ------------------------------ | I brew the beer I drink! # This sig has been cruelly | | Try the Ohio Valley Amiga Users Group # tested on furry little animals. | | home page --> http://www.ovaug.org # http://iac.net/~ehoffman | From johnmark@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:41:12 PDT 1995 Article: 5212 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5212 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: johnmark@ix.netcom.com (John Roquemore) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Just got 4.0 for the PC Date: 25 Apr 1995 23:04:02 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3njv52$f02@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-bos1-19.ix.netcom.com I just got the package this morning.... This is Cooooolllllll!!!! (to understand the way I feel you must know that I do not have an amiga so this is the first time I have done any animation, this RULES!!!!!! I can finally do some of the tutorials from VTU) But, when I go and try to preview a single frame, the preview windows pops up for 7 sec. then it disappears.... Has anyone had this problom? I am running Win95 Build 347 with 16 megs on a 486/33. Thanks in advance!!! John Mark Roquemore net: johnmark@ix.netcom.com "Lightwave will blow away the rest" From bobb@uwave.cse.tek.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:51 PDT 1995 Article: 5213 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5213 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!news.tek.com!uwave.cse.tek.com!bobb From: bobb@uwave.cse.tek.com (Bob Bales) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 25 Apr 1995 23:17:34 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3njvue$dk4@tekadm1.cse.tek.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3nec17$hdd@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: uwave.cse.tek.com In article <3nec17$hdd@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> fwtep@ix.netcom.com (Fred Tepper) writes: >Mark my words, even IF they start making Amigas >again (which would be great since me winning $40 million in the lottery >is a lot lower down on the odds list) they will NOT be the Amigas you >are all used to. If they go to RISC processors they will have to >re-write the much loved Amiga OS, and everything you are running now >will be incompatible (except MAYBE at ridiculously slow emulation >speed--remember all the trouble Apple had?). But this would not be worse -- for the Amiga user -- than moving to a PC/ Pentium. These machines are not the Amigas people are used to. All Amiga software running now is incompatible. There is neither the possibility of emulation nor the possibility -- with LW the exception -- of upgrades. Bob Bales Tektronix, Inc. I help Tektronix make their instruments. They don't help me make my opinions. From ajc126@psu.edu Tue Apr 25 21:41:34 PDT 1995 Article: 5214 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5214 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Anthony Cingle Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: 4.0 and Image Sequences Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:11:23 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3nk6jr$nd8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp51.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 16bit) Just got LW 4.0 for the PC. Everything looks great. Just have a small problem I hope someone can help me with. I tried to load an image sequence off my PAR and it wouldn't take it. All I get is a black screen. If I tell it to load just an image from the file it works. I thought it might have someting to do with the frame increment options (on/off/file) nope, tried them all and nada. Well, I'm starting to get frustrated at this point. I've exported individual targas back to my regular drive but it still won't take them. Does anybody know whats up? Is this just something dissabled in the pre-release version? I'd call NewTek but the Tech Support Has gone home for the evening. Any adivice would be REALLY appreciated. Tony From hardin@ee.ualberta.ca Tue Apr 25 21:40:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5215 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5215 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.mindlink.net!vanbc.wimsey.com!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!hardin From: hardin@ee.ualberta.ca (Hardin Brett Arvid) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: AD: 3.5 Stand-alone $400obo Date: 26 Apr 1995 01:05:32 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering Department Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3nk68s$d8c@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3nje5j$9es@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eigen.ee.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] VirtualBri (virtualbri@aol.com) wrote: | Lightwave 3.5 Standalone for the Amiga $400, or best offer. Discs, | dongle, and manual, perfect for the user starting into Lightwave on the | Amiga. | Would prefer to sell to someone in the SoCal region, just to avoid messy | mail scams if possible. | VirtualBri@aol.com does your copy of the 3.5 SA still include an intact upgrade path? ie, did you upgrade already? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brett Hardin | Remember: University of Alberta | A straight line may be the SHORTEST distance Engineering | between two points, but it is by NO means Edmonton, Alberta | the most interesting! Canada | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From camcollect@aol.com Tue Apr 25 21:41:38 PDT 1995 Article: 5216 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5216 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: camcollect@aol.com (CamCollect) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LW 4.0 PC window size ?? Date: 25 Apr 1995 21:48:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 15 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nk8q0$hmo@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: camcollect@aol.com (CamCollect) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Is it possible to resize the render display window size in 4.0? The size is too small for previewing a frame. Greg Milneck, Jr. The Video Company Baton Rouge, LA, USA camcollect@aol.com From fwtep@ix.netcom.com Tue Apr 25 21:37:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5217 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5217 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: fwtep@ix.netcom.com (Fred Tepper) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:29:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nkb71$64f@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> <3ni31u$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pas13-04.ix.netcom.com In <3ni31u$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> bdupras@bert.eecs.uic.edu (TheTruth) writes: > >In article <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com>, > dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) wrote: > >The Amy was/is an excellent implementation of computer technology. >Brian Yeah, IDE, 256 colors, that's really excellent computer technology. -=Fred=- From animate@infi.net Tue Apr 25 21:41:44 PDT 1995 Article: 5218 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5218 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!larry!animate From: animate@infi.net (James Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: High Res Textures at Affordable Prices Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:22:22 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3nkaou$iv8@lucy.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: larry.infi.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- N-O-W A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E 50 HIGH RESOLUTION TEXTURES for ONLY $29.95 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROFESSIONAL QUALITY - HIGH RESOLUTION including a wide variety of WOOD, MARBLE, GRANITE, BRICK, SOIL, and INDUSTRIAL images 640x480 in JPG Format PC/MAC Compatible __________________________________ For more info, please contact: Animate@infi.net __________________________________ From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Tue Apr 25 21:41:09 PDT 1995 Article: 5219 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5219 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Amiga --> PC LW dilema Message-ID: <5636.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 25 Apr 95 21:54:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: Lines: 22 -> You should be able to use it on your PC fine. Just take your scene -> files and objects and save them to a PC disk using cross dos, so that -> when you get your PC al you have to do is load everything from the -> disk. I save my entire A4000 HD with all my work on it. I'll be -> transfering everything I need over to the PC side as soon as I got -> over to a friends house to use cross dos. Be real careful doing this. Amiga users aren't used to MS-DOS 8.3 file name limitations and if you aren't careful you will find that any of your files with long names will have had the names shortened for you in the transition. Even worse, if any of the new names are the same the duplicates will be overwritten if they are in the same directory. (Example, an image sequence IFFIMAGE001 etc. will end up as ONE file IFFIMAGE !) Solution, use a zip archiver to put all your Amiga files into one file and hang on to the Amiga drive version until you are sure everything survived on the other side. Even better make sure and do a complete tape backup first. ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajc126@psu.edu Tue Apr 25 21:41:46 PDT 1995 Article: 5220 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5220 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Anthony Cingle Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PAR and LW 4.0 Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:02:34 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3nkgkq$n00@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp55.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 16bit) Well Found another problem with the PAR and LW 4.0 (PC Versions) You can save targas to your DOS drive and then transfer them to the PAR, but there is no way you can save directly to the PAR from Lightwave. Why you ask? Well here's what happens, you click on save RGB. Get a dialog requester for the name and destination. Select, the PAR drive and type in a name ex: "Car.TGA". Start rendering and everything seems fine. But when you go to play back the animation it says that there is only 1 frame in the file! Turns out lightwave took "Car.TGA" and sent targas named "Car.TGA001, Car.TGA002, etc." Not good. They have to be Car001.tga, Car002.tga, etc. Lightwave just puts the frame number on the end of whatever the name of your file is. This would be O.K. if I could just type "Car" in the requester, but the PAR doesn't allow access to anything w/o a .TGA extention. If someone has figured out a workaround to this I'd love to know. From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Tue Apr 25 21:45:39 PDT 1995 Article: 5221 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5221 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PAR and video? Message-ID: <5637.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 25 Apr 95 21:58:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: <3n8gjn$q6f@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Lines: 17 -> I have a question I hope someone can answer. I'm in the planning -> stages of doin yearbook video for the Penn State Blue Band. -> Currently I have a PAR PC. I'm seriously contemplating buying a TBC -> IV. What I want to do is record short vi segments (10-20 seconds) -> to the PAR and then use Lightwave to generate the transitions (page -> peels, tumbles, etc). What I want to know is how good is the video -> recorded to the PAR. I know that you have to lower the compression -> level bad is the artificating? I'd really appreciate any responses. -> Thanks. It's not bad, I'd say it's easily VHS quality. That should be good enough for your intended purpose ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com Tue Apr 25 21:45:43 PDT 1995 Article: 5222 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5222 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!mercopus!dan.bloomfield From: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Motion paths for LW. Message-ID: <5638.760.uupcb@mercopus.com> Date: 25 Apr 95 22:33:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, FL - 813-321-0734 Reply-To: dan.bloomfield@mercopus.com (Dan Bloomfield) References: Lines: 14 -> You could also use an ARexx script to plot the points in 3-space with -> whatever mathematical functions you want, including some physical -> modelling (gravity etc). Both motion files and scene files are -> simple ASCII text with numeric lists. I suggest reading some actual -> scene files in your text editor to "reverse-engineer" them. The guy who originally posted doesn't know how to make an oval motion path, and you want him to write an ARexx script with procedural animation equations?!!! ---- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mercury Opus BBS - St. Petersburg, Florida, USA - +1-813-321-0734 | | 2000 Conferences - 100,000 Files - One of America's Top 100 BBS Systems | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hardin@ee.ualberta.ca Sat Apr 29 10:18:54 PDT 1995 Article: 5223 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5223 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!news.mindlink.net!vanbc.wimsey.com!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!hardin From: hardin@ee.ualberta.ca (Hardin Brett Arvid) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Best Monitors 19 Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:31:39 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering Department Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3nkibb$16ik@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3ngipb$a20@panix3.panix.com> <3nj2l9$emd@News1.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eigen.ee.ualberta.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Dan Ablan (dma@mcs.com) wrote: | Also, RADIUS makes some nice monitors. | -Dan that is like saying that CRAY makes funky computers, RADIUS makes great monitors.. but I like the NEC best, that is if you can get a good price on one. up here a NEC XV17 is just a little over $1000 CDN good price, great monitor. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Alexander - Editor LightSmith Magazine (Captain LightSmith) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From edgore@netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5224 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5224 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!edgore From: edgore@netcom.com (Edwin Gore) Subject: Lightwave hates my machine. Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:57:31 GMT Lines: 15 Sender: edgore@netcom13.netcom.com Just got lightwave 4.0 Intel, and it works flawlessly on my Compaq at work. I'm having trouble with my machine at home though (where I plan to do most of my modeling). I keep getting the message "lightwave inititalization failed" or, if it does start I'll get GPFs after a short time. I've tried a seperate clean install of windows 3.1, and upgraded to the latest video drivers (stealth64 VRAM 1.33), not luck... Anyone having similar problems? (system is a P90, 24mb of ram, diamond s64vram) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! edgore@netcom.com ! Subscribe the Strata Mailing list! ! ! Opinions are mine, ! Email "subscribe strata-list" ! ! unless you want 'em ! to listserv@netcom.com...or don't... ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark@fusion.mv.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5225 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5225 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!world!mv!fusion!mark Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave From: mark@fusion.mv.com (Mark Thompson) Subject: Re: Amiga --> PC LW dilema References: <3n3maq$qh0@news.tamu.edu> <3n6k4t$gsk@kelly.teleport.com> X-NewsSoftware: GRn 2.1 Feb 19, 1994 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 18:52:41 EST Organization: Fusion Films, Inc. Lines: 19 downinit@teleport.com (DMetcalfe) writes: >>If i sell my 4000, and buy a pentium, will my scenefiles be able > >to render on LW PC? > I think you'll be OK, as long as you use NT or Win95 with LongFileNames. > Someone here has a definite answer don't they? John? Mark? Assuming you use NT to preserve long filenames: Images, surfaces, motions, previews, and envelopes transfer with out a hitch. Object transfer fine, but any image maps that are called out will have to be substituted with new NT path descriptions. Scene files must be edited with a text editor (I use Word and CEDPro) to replace all the object path specifications with the new NT paths to the same objects. After that, its smooth sailing. *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * Mark Thompson (603) 424-1829 * * Fusion Films Inc. mark@fusion.mv.com * * Radiant Image Productions * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nextwave@icon-stl.net Sat Apr 29 10:20:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5226 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5226 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!newspump.wustl.edu!news.icon-stl.net!icon-stl.net!nextwave From: nextwave@icon-stl.net (William J Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Good price for PC Lightwave! Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:18:39 Organization: Nextwave Lines: 27 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-53.icon-stl.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Hey everyone, I know of a dealer in the Kansas City area who has Lightwave PC in stock and is selling it for $800. I'm sure he'll do mail orders, cause he called me here in St. Louis. Call Desktop Video Systems at 913/782-8888 and ask for Tom O'Conner. I've never dealt with them, so I can't vouch for their service, etc. But the price sounds right! If you do call them, I'd appreciate it if you mention that you got the tip from William Sanford in St. Louis. I figure if I send him a few hundred customers, he'll give me free copy! (I know, fat chance, but I can dream, can't I!) Also, if you have some time on your hands while waiting for a scene to finish, try logging onto my Web Page at: http://www.icon-stl.net/~nextwave There are samples of my work (stills and movies), some nice links to 3D sites, and cool links to the things that REALLY matter, like chocolate, the Simpsons, and Peter Gabriel. Anyway, I hope the info on Lightwave is accurate (the guy just called me out of the blue). Good luck. William Sanford NextWave Computer Graphics nextwave@icon-stl.net From cascio@it.uwp.edu Sat Apr 29 10:19:14 PDT 1995 Article: 5227 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5227 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!cs.uwp.edu!it!cascio From: cascio@it.uwp.edu (Mario Cascio) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: 4.0 and Image Sequences Date: 26 Apr 1995 06:01:51 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3nknkf$e4u@cs.uwp.edu> References: <3nk6jr$nd8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: it.uwp.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Anthony Cingle (ajc126@psu.edu) wrote: : Just got LW 4.0 for the PC. Everything looks great. Just have a small problem I : hope someone can help me with. I tried to load an image sequence off my PAR and it : wouldn't take it. All I get is a black screen. If I tell it to load just an image : from the file it works. : : Tony When loading sequences, you must delete the numbers following it. For example: If the sequence is entitled Fly001, Fly002, Fly003 etc... When you hit load sequence, enter Fly as the sequence name, not Fly001. Refer to your manual it is covered better if I didn't explain it well enough. Good luck! Mario Cascio ProMotion From edgore@netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:59 PDT 1995 Article: 5228 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5228 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!edgore From: edgore@netcom.com (Edwin Gore) Subject: Re: Lightwave hates my machine. Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 06:13:27 GMT Lines: 7 Sender: edgore@netcom8.netcom.com Oh yeah, and Modeler doesn't start...I get an "Error 212" message. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! edgore@netcom.com ! Subscribe the Strata Mailing list! ! ! Opinions are mine, ! Email "subscribe strata-list" ! ! unless you want 'em ! to listserv@netcom.com...or don't... ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- From cascio@it.uwp.edu Sat Apr 29 10:19:19 PDT 1995 Article: 5229 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5229 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!cs.uwp.edu!it!cascio From: cascio@it.uwp.edu (Mario Cascio) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Flyer Animation Date: 26 Apr 1995 06:15:33 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3nkoe5$e4u@cs.uwp.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: it.uwp.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have noticed that my Flyer plays back animations that have different colors than are rendered. Is this because of the VTASC that newtek uses to compress the animation? It is also evident when I playback video sequences that were recorded into the Flyer, the colors seem to loose their vividness. I am disappointed. When I ordered the FLYER last year in June, I was told that it would record the same quality I put in, what gives? Will this be corrected in the next version? I am still waiting for that version, I'm sitting on a 3.94 version right now. My business is being held up by all the bugs that remain in the FLYER. I hope Newtek gets on the ball. I think they should have focused their efforts on fixing FLYER bugs rather than introducing more products. I have invested tens of thousands of dollars in my equipment. I can't make money when the equipment is not producing results that I expect. It is a shame that Newtek doesn't realize that other FLYER owners are in the same situation I am. While they have my money, I have a somewhat useless system until the bugs are fixed. It really stinks when it takes 40 minutes to render one frame of a 300 frame animation, and when you play it back, the colors are reversed every 50 frames. This costs me alot of time, money and especially business. This is not to say that the FLYER is all bad, it's just a disappointment for them to work up your expectations on what their product is supposed to do, and what it really does. I believe their is a law that protects against fraudulent products... Don't get me wrong, it would be most difficult to go back to linear editing after using the FLYER; however, there are other nonlinear systems out there that can do what they say they can, and that is what I want, NOT PROMISES AND FORECASTED RELEASE DATES. I just had to get that off my chest. Mario Cascio ProMotion From bradx@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:19:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5230 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5230 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: bradx@ix.netcom.com (Brad Grace) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave on Location/Exploring Lightwave 3D Date: 26 Apr 1995 06:43:47 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nkq33$rqk@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-ir14-10.ix.netcom.com In michael@iglou.iglou.com (Michael Meshew) writes: > > Actually Lightwave on Location is now titled Exploring Lightwave 3D. >The distributors wanted the title to explain the nature of the book. > >Hope this helps! > > >Michael Meshew >Graphic Detail > Do you know when they are going to ship this book, I ordered it about a month and a half ago and I have never heard a word beyond a little letter saying they would get it out by mid-april. Brad From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:19 PDT 1995 Article: 5231 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5231 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! Date: 26 Apr 1995 07:04:43 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nkrab$813@news.xmission.com> References: <3nc6hi$i1s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3negms$e2u@news.xmission.com> <3ngh19$it4@news.xmission.com> <3ni31u$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> <3nkb71$64f@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Fred Tepper (fwtep@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : Yeah, : IDE, 256 colors, that's really excellent computer technology. Fred, You're waxing a bit bitter aren't you ? :) -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From stans@gateway.ecn.com Sat Apr 29 10:17:56 PDT 1995 Article: 5232 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5232 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!gw1.att.com!gw2.att.com!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!netcomsv!uucp3.netcom.com!gateway.ecn.com!not-for-mail From: stans@gateway.ecn.com Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: LightWave List Date: 21 Apr 1995 20:03:03 -0700 Organization: West Coast Computer Products Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3n9rl7$3dk@gateway.ecn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.ecn.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Has the LightWave list vanished? moved? what? My mail box used to get full and suddenly nothing. What gives? Dan McCoy? Stan Shumlick 2 Tall Video From gareth@aragorn.inmos.co.uk Sat Apr 29 10:20:04 PDT 1995 Article: 5233 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5233 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!inmos-root!aragorn!gareth From: gareth@aragorn.inmos.co.uk (Gareth Collins) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Vlab Motion for Sale Sorry for wasting some bandwidth but I have the following for sale : Date: 26 Apr 1995 09:03:01 GMT Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK Lines: 10 Sender: gareth@aragorn (Gareth Collins) Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nl285$h1t@lion.inmos.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn Vlab Motion card for Amiga, brand new with latest V2.1 software for non linear editing and playback of LW anims. 800 uk pounds As the card is PAL only, it is probably only of interest to uk/europe users. It has proved its worth in a couple of projects but we are selling the Amiga system so it has to go...... Replies via email to gareth@inmos.co.uk From studer@ens.ascom.ch Sat Apr 29 10:18:28 PDT 1995 Article: 5234 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5234 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!news-rocq.inria.fr!news2.EUnet.fr!EU.net!chsun!hslrswi!news From: studer@ens.ascom.ch (Studer Andreas 3132) Subject: Re: The Return of the Amiga! X-Nntp-Posting-Host: stva99.ens.ascom.ch Message-ID: <1995Apr25.132322.24830@hasler.ascom.ch> Sender: news@hasler.ascom.ch Reply-To: studer@ens.ascom.ch Organization: ascom Business Systems AG, CH-4503 Solothurn References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:23:22 GMT Lines: 39 Hello, In article 013CE515@primenet.com, wturber@primenet.com (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes: > Grow up. There are bunches of people here who would LOVE to see the Amiga > come back. Most of us do occasional reality checks though. There are > excellent reasons to move to the PC platform. Sad fact for many, but fact > nonetheless. The Amiga wasn't exactly taking the world by storm when they > bellied up. NewTek was one of the major forces that kept the Amiga going and > they just went thru a tough year themselves. In a world where technology NewTek was definitively NOT always the force behind the Amiga. Here in Europe, Commodore has selled MORE highend-Amigas than in the US. So what to the hell does all this people here without the NewTek-products, which are only NTSC (yes, i know: Digiview was also PAL... :-)? (and before somebody means, the US is the bigger Computer-market: in 1994 Europe has spend more money for computer than the US (official article in the ComputerWorld-magazine at the beginning of this year...)). > changes almost daily, a one year absence from the market is a major blow. I, > however, hope you get to say "Told ya so!" a year from now. Problem is - > that's only going to happen in your dreams. I don't think single-framing > animations will be the rage in '96 either. But I could be wrong. Do you really think, that the PC-tecnology will take a so great jump in the next 2 years? I don't think that. Or they will release a completly different technology. And as long as people will buy every little step in speed (e.g. P90 to P100 to P120 to...) they'll not change too much... :-) (i think in the official release-time of the P6, the speed-jump from the fastest P5 in that time to the P6 will not as twice as fast... :-) ...Maybe consoles from Nintendo will have this possibilities... :-) bye Andrew From mcoats@qnet.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:45 PDT 1995 Article: 5235 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5235 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!qnet.com!cello!mcoats From: Manuel Coats Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Screen Grabber Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:59:51 -0700 Organization: Quantum Networking Solutions, Inc. - (805) 538-2030 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3niq05$6da@warp.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.qnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mcoats@cello In-Reply-To: <3niq05$6da@warp.cris.com> On 25 Apr 1995, Christina Rogers wrote: > Manuel Coats (mcoats@qnet.com) wrote: > : My last message should have reflected that the screen grabber is for my > : Pentium, and not an amiga. Thanks. > If you Pentium is running Windows or NT, or '95, then just press > Shift-PRNTSCR. This will copy the current screen to the clipboard. Then > just load a bitmap editor (paintbrush, corel-Paint, etc.) and select > Edit-Paste and the image will be pasted onto the current page. Ahh, thanks. I guess now is a good time to actually break out the Windows NT book and actually finish reading it. Thanks again, it worked great. Manny From stranahan@aol.com Sat Apr 29 10:19:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5236 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5236 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 26 Apr 1995 03:32:58 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 28 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nksva$o8i@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3ni1qn$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com ----------------- Very interesting idea, but it sounds like hell on the hard drive. Was there any talk about going to some other type of computer readable digital media? High speed optical? Flash RAM? Anything? ------------------ Well, there's one digital media you didn't mention - TAPE...I know, I know, I know - tape is dead...but I think that digital tape based systems will be a good short-term (for the next 6 yearsish) solution...I say this based on audio recording, where tape is good to aquire (a linear job) and disks are good to edit on (a non-linear job).... Panasonic showed a neat little digital camcorder and laptop computer sized edit system, to be released in a year. It's priced high and it's aimed at ENG and it's a new format....but the IDEA is good. (The tapes are REAL small - cassette sized, too) This is not to say that this is the answer...just mentioning something that wasn't mentioned. (The rumour I keep waiting for is cheap digital Hi-8....still waiting!) _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan From mcoats@qnet.com Sat Apr 29 10:18:49 PDT 1995 Article: 5237 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5237 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!qnet.com!cello!mcoats From: Manuel Coats Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: ---> New Lightwave Publication <--- Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:11:36 -0700 Organization: Quantum Networking Solutions, Inc. - (805) 538-2030 Lines: 103 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cello.qnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mcoats@cello From: Mark Lapenna To: BUGSS Cc: lightwave-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: 3D Press. On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, BUGSS wrote: > > As Amiga-world is over (...), I'm looking for another magazine dealing > with Lightwave, 3D graphics and softwares (on every platforms), > video,... with tutorials, examples, ... > I would greatly appreciate any suggestion with the name, address, and > editor address (necessary for importing the magazine in France). > * Does anyone have the Lightwave Pro regular mail address ? > > ____________________________________________________________________ We've all seen quite a few of these message being posted in the last couple of weeks. After reading a couple more in my mail from the weekend, I decided I should post this message to let everybody know that there IS a new Lightwave publications in the works. Actual shipment isn't swcheduled for about 9 weeks, but It will be available to people on the net in about 5 or 6 weeks. This is a pre-release advertisement, so SKIP IT if you want. _______________________________________________________________________ I thought I would take a moment to announce a new LW publication that has been in the works for a bit now. I understand that there are now atleast two or more other newsletter/magazine formats that will either be complimenting or competing with LW PRO. We decided that we did not want to compete with anybody, thus adding to the pool of knowledge, so instead we've come up with a new Lightwave publication each month that is completely unique. It's LIGHT SPEED : The video magazine for the Lightwave Enthusiast. Light Speed is a Lightwave magazine in VHS format. Basically subscribers will get a new 90-120 minute video chalk full of LW tutorials, reviews, animations, and more each and every month. The cost will be suprisingly low... lower in fact that ANY other LW video that I have ever seen produced. Just like any other magazine, you'll save by ordering a subscription. Subscription rates for a full year (12 videos) will be $96. That is only $8 each tape under a subscription, there is no reason why everybody can't enjoy Light Speed. Cover price will be $12.00 each if you decide to purchase them seperately.. We are able to offer LIGHT SPEED at these great prices mainly due to special agreements with our video manufacturer and special adertising incentives. Does this cheap price mean you are getting a cheap product? Not by any means. You will get turorials from talented people around the globe, many who currently write articles for other LW newseletter/magazines. Won't it be nice to watch or follow along on a tutorial and get the exact results the tutorial says you'll get? How about seeing new software or hardware to enhance Lightwave? Won't it be great to see those products in action and see what they REALLY do versus just reading a review about them. Another fantastic part of the video is the Animation Showcase where you get to see what others are doing with Lightwave. I think a lot of us learn new techniques by picking apart other peoples work. Well now you'll get to see new anaimations each month by pro's and hobbiest's just like you and I. Hey, you can even send your animations or demo tapes in and have them shown on a future issue of LIGHT SPEED. But thats not all. Nope, we plan to provide atleast a full 90 minutes of good old lightwave tips, tricks, techniques, and more... each and every month. You should be able to pick these video's up at most retailers that sell LW, atleast you will be able to real soon (We are working on distributors right now), but you can save some good pocket change and have a new issue of Light Speed shipped to you every month (just like a regular magazine) by subscribing. Again, a subsciption will get you each issue of Lightspeed in vhs format at $8.00 each, and that INCLUDES shipping. Look for our full page ad in Video Toaster user, and Lightwave Pro beginning in the August issue (Lw Pro's July Issue). Internet users will have first crack at Light Speed. The shipping date for issue #1 of Light Speed is July 1st, but we'll release it early to the internet sometime early June. I hope to see you all become subscribers of this great publication. I'll post order information when the time comes. I just thought I would let you all know what's in store real, real soon. Manuel Coats Light Speed: The video Magazine for the Lightwave Enthusiast. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW, If you are interested in submitting some of your original animations to be included in the Animation Showcase on a future issue of Light Speed, please send me mail. Do not confuse this with entries for the LW animation video which is also being worked on currently. If however you would like to try for both, that is fine. For those companies out there that are interested in either advertising their goods or having a new product reviewed, please e-mail me at mcoats@qnet.com or call 805-945-9870. If anybody has something they would like to see reviewed, covered, or have a tutorial on, please forward that request to the above e-mail address. Approximately 6 weeks to shipping date (For you Net Surfers) We will be converting this to PAL for those European users, but as of yet we don't have prices set or a European distributor (Any takers?), I will fill in all the blanks in the next couple of weeks. The first few issues are all being worked on and finished up. From djn@ix.netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:13 PDT 1995 Article: 5238 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5238 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: djn@ix.netcom.com (Douglas Nakakihara) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: PC LW Copy Protection Date: 26 Apr 1995 12:45:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nlfa0$6au@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-tok1-01.ix.netcom.com Don't think I've seen this info posted yet, but PC LightWave has a parallel port dongle. As an Amiga user I understand...as a PC user I am outraged! ;-) -- //// * * --Doug ~ djn@ix.netcom.com "What a silly bunt..." From ajc126@psu.edu Sat Apr 29 10:19:11 PDT 1995 Article: 5239 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5239 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Anthony Cingle Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Lightwave hates my machine. Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:47:02 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3nlism$n40@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp86.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: edgore@netcom.com Same thing has happened to me. Make sure the dongle is firmly in. It turns out in my case, Lightwave won't load if I have the printer hooked up to the dongle. From ajc126@psu.edu Sat Apr 29 10:19:16 PDT 1995 Article: 5240 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5240 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: Anthony Cingle Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: 4.0 and Image Sequences Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:15:00 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3nlkh4$dbu@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <3nk6jr$nd8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> <3nknkf$e4u@cs.uwp.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp55.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1b3 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: cascio@it.uwp.edu > >When loading sequences, you must delete the numbers following it. > >For example: If the sequence is entitled Fly001, Fly002, Fly003 etc... > >When you hit load sequence, enter Fly as the sequence name, not Fly001. > >Refer to your manual it is covered better if I didn't explain it well enough. > >Good luck! > >Mario Cascio >ProMotion Yeah, I read that also and tried it. Still nothing. Grrr. From mbc@po.cwru.edu Sat Apr 29 10:20:25 PDT 1995 Article: 5241 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5241 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.cwru.edu!mbc From: mbc@po.cwru.edu (Michael B. Comet) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: PC LW Copy Protection Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:43:29 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3nlm6h$2dk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <3nlfa0$6au@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sushi.ins.cwru.edu X-Newsreader: CWRU GnomeNews for Windows In a previous article djn@ix.netcom.com (Douglas Nakakihara) said: > Don't think I've seen this info posted yet, but PC LightWave has a > parallel port dongle. As an Amiga user I understand...as a PC user I am > outraged! ;-) > Drat...this sounds annoying. I have heard the Amiga version has a dongle. Can you explain what this is? I mean how does it relate to the parallel port? I assume I won't have to disconnect my printer every time I want to run LW.... mbc -- | Michael B. Comet - mbc@po.cwru.edu | http://www.cwru.edu/0/cwrunet/homes/comet/index.html | Graphics & Animation! From dingebre@xmission.xmission.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:16 PDT 1995 Article: 5242 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5242 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!hookup!newshost.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!news.xmission.com!xmission!dingebre From: dingebre@xmission.xmission.com (David Ingebretsen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: PC LW Copy Protection Date: 26 Apr 1995 14:42:38 GMT Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3nlm4u$m5m@news.xmission.com> References: <3nlfa0$6au@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Douglas Nakakihara (djn@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : Don't think I've seen this info posted yet, but PC LightWave has a : parallel port dongle. As an Amiga user I understand...as a PC user I am : outraged! ;-) Why, pirating onthe PC is as rampant as any platform. As I recall, Autocad has had a dongle forever, Many of the high end analysis and scientifice applications (Matlab being an exception) I've used have had some form of copy protection. The version of 3D Studio I saw in use had a parallel port dongle, too. As a side note, Real 3D has removed its dongle as of version 2.49. -- David David M. Ingebretsen *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics *** dingebre@xmission.xmission.com *** Animation and more *** From johnc@MCS.COM Sat Apr 29 10:19:44 PDT 1995 Article: 5243 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5243 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: johnc@MCS.COM (John Crookshank) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: NewTek unveils Windows Toaster box at NAB Date: 26 Apr 1995 08:22:33 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3nlhep$9a5@Mercury.mcs.com> References: <3ni1qn$l8f@hermes.unt.edu> <3nksva$o8i@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] Stranahan (stranahan@aol.com) wrote: > Well, there's one digital media you didn't mention - TAPE...I know, I > know, I know - tape is dead...but I think that digital tape based systems > will be a good short-term (for the next 6 yearsish) solution...I say this > based on audio recording, where tape is good to aquire (a linear job) and > disks are good to edit on (a non-linear job).... > Panasonic showed a neat little digital camcorder and laptop computer sized > edit system, to be released in a year. It's priced high and it's aimed at > ENG and it's a new format....but the IDEA is good. (The tapes are REAL > small - cassette sized, too) I was rather suprised that the camcorder was a full-size unit. Nothing wrong with that, I was just expecting a 6mm tape format to have a camera sized similarly to an 8mm unit... > This is not to say that this is the answer...just mentioning something > that wasn't mentioned. (The rumour I keep waiting for is cheap digital > Hi-8....still waiting!) Lee, did you get a chance to look at the new JVC Digital-S systems? Those look like an excellent choice, too, especially since they have some backwards compatibility with standard S-VHS, too. -- ,-------------------------------------------------, / John Crookshank MicroTech Solutions, Inc. / ( johnc@mcs.com Desktop Video Systems Dealer ( \ mtech1@mcs.com Store:708-851-3033 \ `-------------------------------------------------` From AVID@cup.portal.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:39 PDT 1995 Article: 5244 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5244 Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!decwrl!svc.portal.com!portal.com!cup.portal.com!AVID From: AVID@cup.portal.com (Jim C Plant) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Additional info on PC Toaster/Flyer Date: 26 Apr 1995 10:00:18 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 14 Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <137603@cup.portal.com> References: <3nb37n$dlk@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <137555@cup.portal.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.unix.portal.com Doug, Oops (taking foot out of mouth), in reading your post, I assumed your fictional Amiga owner already owned a Flyer... If not, I can see no reason why anyone would want a Toaster Bay (Toaster box sans Flyer). Without the Flyer, it would have no functionality at all. I don't think it would work at all. The only reason NewTek would be offering the Video Toaster Bay is for current (or future) Amiga/Flyer owners to have an upgrade path to the new VT for Windows. You'd take your Flyer out of your Amiga and plug it in to the VT Bay. Then you'd have a standalone system with the benefits listed in my previous post. Jim Plant From jcrowe@isd.tandem.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:37 PDT 1995 Article: 5245 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5245 rec.video.desktop:5481 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave,rec.video.desktop Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!world!zilker.net!halley!integrity!zaphod!jcrowe From: jcrowe@isd.tandem.com (Joseph Crowe) Subject: For Sale, Video Toaster System Message-ID: <1995Apr26.153119.20721@integrity.uucp> Followup-To: email Sender: jcrowe@zaphod (Joseph Crowe) Reply-To: "jcrowe@isd.tandem.com" Organization: Tandem Computers Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:31:19 GMT Lines: 27 Note followups directed to email. Hi Folks, I have an A4000/Toaster system for sale. Here's the specifics: A4000/40 with original OS 3.0 bought at DevCon from C=. Warp Engine 4040 with 32Mbytes 60ns memory(two 16M SIMMs) Toaster 4000 with 3.5 software upgrade Two IDE drives the original ~200 Mbyte and an ~300 Mbyte one C= 1950 monitor All original boxes, manuals, extremities and cables. Price: $4500. I'd prefer somebody in Texas so I can deliver but would consider shipping within the US given the proper arrangements. A note about this system. I bought all of the components directly and frankly never had much spare time to play with them. Most of my Amiga time has been spent on my A3000 for productivity and A1000 for games. I managed to put in about fifty hours with LightWave and I loved it. The Toaster was fun as well but I need to make room in my house and thus somebody can take the Toaster system and give it a good home. -- Joseph Crowe jcrowe@isd.tandem.com From stranahan@aol.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:52 PDT 1995 Article: 5246 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5246 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: LightWave Animation Contest Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:47:52 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nm108$sta@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3ni29r$663@shell.globalone.net> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com My idea is and was - don't do an animation contest, have the contest based on the best FRAME - or use multiple categories to rate frames. Why? Because not everyone can animate, or animate high quality enough, or animate fast enough...plus VTU is a MAGAZINE...it lends itself to impressive frames, not moving images. Plus, the time to judge is much quicker. Plus, a single frame could really show off a person's image, composition, modeling skills. My two cents... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan From jnguyen@wwa.com Sat Apr 29 10:21:32 PDT 1995 Article: 5247 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5247 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!noc.netcom.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwa.com!news From: jnguyen@wwa.com (Jack Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Looking for Discount of LW 4.0 for student. Date: 26 Apr 1995 18:06:11 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3nm22j$5bc@news.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chi031.wwa.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 Much appreciated. -- Thank you, --jack ___________________________________ Jack Nguyen Email: jnguyen@wwa.com WWW: http://gagme.wwa.com:80/~jnguyen/ ___________________________________ From stranahan@aol.com Sat Apr 29 10:20:41 PDT 1995 Article: 5248 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5248 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Subject: Re: Additional info on PC Toaster/Flyer Date: 26 Apr 1995 13:59:07 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 19 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3nm1lb$t1i@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <137555@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: stranahan@aol.com (Stranahan) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com ----------- Why would an Amiga owner want a $3,000 box sans Flyer? Well, he/she might want to take the box out into the field for direct-to-disk recording. ----------- Well, why not just take the whole Amiga into the field? This would work great on most shoots - like an event where there is power and you are locked down to a location. In fact, because you'd have a real CG and real time switcher, it would work far better, It seems. Now, if you were wandering around with a camcorder, you could use the battery operated version, I guess...but I think the 40 lbs of the new box would seem to be a problem...(or do I sound like a wimp?) Plus, batteries running a hard drive based system sorta,,,uhh....SCARES me... _____________________________________________ Lee Stranahan From shf@netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:21:35 PDT 1995 Article: 5249 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5249 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: LW 4.0 PC window size ?? Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: <3nk8q0$hmo@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:50:50 GMT Lines: 11 Sender: shf@netcom19.netcom.com +-- camcollect@aol.com (CamCollect) writes: | Is it possible to resize the render display window size in 4.0? | The size is too small for previewing a frame. It's funny since this window is exactly the same resolution as the render preview on the Amiga. The final version does have a full-size display of the completed render. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?" From shf@netcom.com Sat Apr 29 10:19:01 PDT 1995 Article: 5250 of comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Xref: netcom.com comp.graphics.packages.lightwave:5250 Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.lightwave Path: netcom.com!shf From: shf@netcom.com (Stuart Ferguson) Subject: Re: Lightwave hates my machine. Message-ID: Organization: The Blue Planet References: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:51:37 GMT Lines: 8 Sender: shf@netcom19.netcom.com +-- edgore@netcom.com (Edwin Gore) writes: | Oh yeah, and Modeler doesn't start...I get an "Error 212" message. Hardware key not found. Make sure it's well seated. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@netcom.com) "How do you compute that? Where on the graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"